Regardless of what side(s) you take, it really is a blessing and benefit of the US system, there can be an open, lively, and free discussion without comments or commentors disappearing as if a phrase would topple an entire system.
FBI Says Chinese Operatives Active at Scores of U.S. Universities
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#162I wonder when the FBI would take similar action on white nationalists who murder innocent immigrants.
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#163Australia has of late had its own issues involving accusations of Chinese espionage as well as good old-fashioned palm-greasing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sam_Dastyari#Chinese_influence... If the US starts clamping down on this sort of thing, expect China to accuse the US government of xenophobia, since of course "we'd like to stop so many Chinese agents and toadies from infiltrating our governmental and educatio…
I find the thought of Chinese people complaining that Americans are racist to be very amusing. Doubly so if I imagine the American so accused to be black with epicanthic folds. Did you know that a commercial once aired in China for Qiaobi detergent, where a black man is shoved into a washing machine, and when the cycle finishes, he comes out Chinese? It aired for months, and didn't get pulled until an English-languag…
Might as well link to it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Few8kJ0zfnY
I don't think it's intentionally racist as far as disparaging black people, but it does imply that black skin is "dirty" and wouldn't fly in, shall we say, less homogeneous cultures.
See also Darkie/Darlie toothpaste: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darlie
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#164Honestly, is this news? Is it anything new that there are people roaming around university campuses that intend to make inroads into young, impressionable minds? When I was at university, I remember there was an organization called "Horizons" which would show up to a number of social events and invite people to their building located near campus for free dinner. Of course, they were a Christian organization and were…
It's news because it's all allegations with no evidence. Tfa says there are several hundred thousand Chinese students in the US. Not a single one has been shown to be a Chinese operative.
Actually, I agree with you there.
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#165Earlier quoted context omitted.
Community colleges are significantly more expensive for international students; at the local ones nearby you're looking at paying 4-5x more.
Sure, but the base is low.
It's on the order of $10,000-15,000. That's just slightly under the price of a university education for in-state students.
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#166And we continue to tolerate those who wouldn't tolerate us... Even the Chinese have a word for these people who naively defend and turn a blind eye to this sort of thing: "Baizou". From Wikipedia: "The word baizuo is, according to political scientist Zhang Chenchen, a Chinese word that ridicules Western "liberal elites". He further defined the word "baizuo" with the definition "People who only care about topics such…
I’m so confused. The wikipedia article is basicly an exerpt from a chinese government english language propoganda tabloid. Who are they trying to infuence? The US right wing?
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#167Personally I think some Mandarin should become compulsory in the US because I think basic lack of communication is the greatest security risk. The biggest problem to me is the Chinese suppression of dissent and overcentralization. And since there are so many Chinese people it seems almost inevitable that these tendencies will encroach upon or at least rub off on the US. I assume at this point most universities realiz…
I got about six weeks of Mandarin in middle school. Not enough teachers are available to offer it in most high schools. If you wanted to really learn a second language before university, it was either French or Spanish. Like a chump, I chose French, because the teacher was reputed to give out less homework than the Spanish teacher. I've never even been to Quebec or Haiti. Quelle dommage; ce n'est pas trop utile pour…
True if it's not used it will be a waste. But the thing that worries me is the resource contention between the countries. So maybe we should have a preemptive "war on division" to try to integrate the cultures before our differences come to a violent head.
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#168And we continue to tolerate those who wouldn't tolerate us... Even the Chinese have a word for these people who naively defend and turn a blind eye to this sort of thing: "Baizou". From Wikipedia: "The word baizuo is, according to political scientist Zhang Chenchen, a Chinese word that ridicules Western "liberal elites". He further defined the word "baizuo" with the definition "People who only care about topics such…
Sounds fake to me. Any actual Chinese to confirm this? Just going by the "they believe in the welfare state that “benefits only the idle and the free riders”" comment; China is a communist country , its about as far on the spectrum left past welfare state as you can go.
China is ruled by a party with "Communist" in its name, that's the only connection with communists. Officially China runs "socialism with chinese characteristics", but as other comments have pointed out, in realistic it's more like state capitalism.
And to answer your question -- yes it's a real word, and is used on Internet a lot. Literally it means white ("bai") liberals ("zuo" -- left).
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#169And we continue to tolerate those who wouldn't tolerate us... Even the Chinese have a word for these people who naively defend and turn a blind eye to this sort of thing: "Baizou". From Wikipedia: "The word baizuo is, according to political scientist Zhang Chenchen, a Chinese word that ridicules Western "liberal elites". He further defined the word "baizuo" with the definition "People who only care about topics such…
Sounds fake to me. Any actual Chinese to confirm this? Just going by the "they believe in the welfare state that “benefits only the idle and the free riders”" comment; China is a communist country , its about as far on the spectrum left past welfare state as you can go.
Yes, and the standard Communist criticism of the idea of welfare states (which, IIRC, predates both the actual existence of welfare states and also that of Leninism, much less the present Chinese Communist regime) is that it is a bourgeois “reform” to capitalism that provides the illusion of serving the lord classes but only actually reinforced the power and position of the capitalist elites.
(This is structurally similar to the right-wing capitalist criticism of welfare states, which is basically the same but substitutes an amorphousus government elite in place of the capitalist one.)
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#170And we continue to tolerate those who wouldn't tolerate us... Even the Chinese have a word for these people who naively defend and turn a blind eye to this sort of thing: "Baizou". From Wikipedia: "The word baizuo is, according to political scientist Zhang Chenchen, a Chinese word that ridicules Western "liberal elites". He further defined the word "baizuo" with the definition "People who only care about topics such…
That sounds a lot like it would come straight from right wing propaganda from the wording.
The right wing and the extreme left have remarkable similar attitudes toward the center–to–center-left.
(Leaving aside question of whether the Chinese “Communist” regime is on the left in any substantive sense, rather than merely as a historical rhetorical affectation.)