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MPEG-2 Patents Have Expired

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Software patents shouldn't exist to begin with.

This is more algorithm than software isn’t it? and I suspect MPEG2 has had hardware implementations since day one - so I’m not sure it’s that clear cut. And frankly, at the time it was state of the art and I imagine requires significant investment. The patent duration is far too long though.

Algorithm is more abstract than software which implements it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is more algorithm than software isn’t it? and I suspect MPEG2 has had hardware implementations since day one - so I’m not sure it’s that clear cut. And frankly, at the time it was state of the art and I imagine requires significant investment. The patent duration is far too long though.

> This is more algorithm than software isn’t it? What do you believe the difference is? To me, software and algorithms are the same thing.

An algorithm is not patentable. Inventions may use algorithm but the invention cannot be just an algorithm.

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An obsolete movie format, but a large amount of stored media exists in this format so ultimately a win. I would like to say something to the effect of there being just a tiny bit less rent-seeking in the world today, but I'm sure by tomorrow the seeds will be planted for millions more rent-seeking opportunities in the future.

DVDs are still created and purchased all over the world, I don't think it's quite obsolete yet?

And likely never will be.

Newer codecs basically exist because video resolutions outpace storage space (for questionable benefits).

MPEG2, much like MP3, are "good enough" for most common usage.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most digital TV broadcasts use MPEG-2, don't they?

DVB-T2 can use a variety of codecs. From 2022 some European countries (Germany, Italy, Czech Republic, Slovakia) will pass their broadcasting system to DVB-T2 with H.265. Since January 2017 new TVs must support HEVC decoding. Sadly, no AV1...

Do wonder how many will be left hanging high and dry with that transition.

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is more algorithm than software isn’t it? and I suspect MPEG2 has had hardware implementations since day one - so I’m not sure it’s that clear cut. And frankly, at the time it was state of the art and I imagine requires significant investment. The patent duration is far too long though.

> This is more algorithm than software isn’t it? What do you believe the difference is? To me, software and algorithms are the same thing.

I'd say software is typically built up with algorithms and static data. So an algorithm is more of a building block or raw material

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I wonder if this will affect the existence of the Raspberry Pi's binary blob ? I remember Liz Upton saying "[MPEG2 licensing] is a reason we have to keep the blob, unfortunately, or we’d be sued into a smoking hole in the ground by the MPEG LA" on this page: https://www.raspberrypi.org/blog/a-birthday-present-from-bro... Also does it mean that the Raspberry Fundation could provide the MPEG2 hardware decoder license k…

If the only license is involved is the patent license, then they could likely provide it for free. However, it's not implausible the manufacturer of the hardware decoder takes some of the fee.

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is more algorithm than software isn’t it? and I suspect MPEG2 has had hardware implementations since day one - so I’m not sure it’s that clear cut. And frankly, at the time it was state of the art and I imagine requires significant investment. The patent duration is far too long though.

> This is more algorithm than software isn’t it? What do you believe the difference is? To me, software and algorithms are the same thing.

Software is the implementation of an algorithm using a specific language and tools.

Re: MPEG-2 Patents Have Expired

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is more algorithm than software isn’t it? and I suspect MPEG2 has had hardware implementations since day one - so I’m not sure it’s that clear cut. And frankly, at the time it was state of the art and I imagine requires significant investment. The patent duration is far too long though.

> This is more algorithm than software isn’t it? What do you believe the difference is? To me, software and algorithms are the same thing.

> To me, software and algorithms are the same thing

Algorithms exist outside of software.

Algorithms are formulas or functions for solving a problem.

Software is usually the implementation of one or more algorithms on a computer.

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