Okay, I'll jump. Any tips on a good mail/calendaring/contact solution that isn't google, and works and syncs across browser and mobile devices?
AMP for email is a terrible idea
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Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#222Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm fairly certain that Lotus Notes is deserving of at least as much scorn for its mail rendering as Outlook.
Considering I did ISP tech support, including mail client setup, for a few years in the late 90's and early 2000's and never once encountered Lotus Notes, I think it may be like in kind, but nowhere near like in quantity.
Notes is/was typically used in corporate setups. I'm not sure any non-business user would have ended up trying to use it.
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
Email “works” but it’s ass for consistently displaying anything more than text. Marketers want to make money, and right now stuffing emails with images in favor of proper layout is the only easy way to do it. Of course google also wants all of your email googling its way through their servers.
As a marketer my fear is Google sees what FB is doing to monetize the feed format and it is moving to turn email into the next algorithmically controlled feed it can turn into a dynamic auction. There is already a Gmail placement for AdWords ok the GDN. However for the most part, if I as a marketer send emails to my customers, I can be more or less certain they will get delivered if my deliverability is high. What I…
> algorithmically controlled feed it can turn into a dynamic auction.
That's already happened with GMail, hasn't it? The filters for Promotion, Social, and of course Spam already control what/where users see (and it'd be trivial for Google to charge a fee here based off visibility of Promotion-categorized messages).
It's still in a linear and usually legible way, of course, and I think it's arguably user-friendly if imperfect. Doing what facebook does with feed/status updates with email would be absolutely ludicrous, it would make GMail a ghost town overnight.
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#224Poor frogs. The water temp just got upped a couple of degrees. Too late to jump out or not just yet? Some relief for frogs that make it out of the pot: https://mailinabox.email/ https://redmail.com/ https://protonmail.com/ https://www.fastmail.com/
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#225Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm fairly certain that Lotus Notes is deserving of at least as much scorn for its mail rendering as Outlook.
Considering I did ISP tech support, including mail client setup, for a few years in the late 90's and early 2000's and never once encountered Lotus Notes, I think it may be like in kind, but nowhere near like in quantity.
Notes was an interesting product until people started using it for email.
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#226When I read a phrase like:
>> allowing “engaging, interactive, and actionable email experiences.”
I immediately think advertisements.
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#227I can't believe I read through this article and most all of the comments here with no mention of what the hell AMP actually is, so I did a bit of Googling so that someone somewhere won't have to. Accelerated Mobile Pages (AMP) ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accelerated_Mobile_Pages ): They are a competing technology with Facebook's Instant Articles that restricts the page from doing practically anything that isn't p…
You left out the very important detail that practically speaking, your content also needs to be hosted on Google's CDN if you want to get any of the benefits that content creators are likely to care about (being boosted in SERPs).
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#228I'll get down voted for saying this, but the HN crowd's hypocrisy is baffling. 1. Gmail is a channel that Google has under monetized for a decade. This is an opportunity for them to extract value from the said channel. If you're allergic to Google offering free services that use your data for advertising, go pay for email. Google isn't a charity and you aren't entitled to a Gmail of your choosing. 2. Apple is a prime…
> I'll get down voted for saying this
No, you'll get down voted for the way you are saying it. There's a difference, and it's an important one.
Cheers
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#229Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you live in a town where FIOS is active, you are magically a customer again.
Until they sell you off to Frontier. Frontier decided all the movies I bought from Verizon weren't mine anymore. No compensation, no apologies.
The whole idea of “selling” something that the customer don’t actually receive, and has no rights to, is insane. It’s tantamount to false advertising, and I think it should be made illegal.
Re: AMP for email is a terrible idea
#230you need IDM to download anything from the internet
http://www.idmcrack.ml/