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Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Re: Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Post by sekou »

curtis wrote: post #6
fwdpropaganda wrote: post #4

> On at least a couple of occasions, someone had crossed out the words “Black Lives Matter” and replaced them with “All Lives Matter.” I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people.

I feel like things went the wrong way with "Black Lives Matter". We were just on the crux of a "Police Accountability Matters" movement and then things went a different direction.

I think this article hints at what may have been one of the causes of that change in direction. It appears that Russia faked black radical activism in social media in order to intentionally sow division in the US. But that action plays into the larger current political climate where it's "either you're with us or against us" by default rather than "even if we don't agree on everything, let's make progress where we do agree."

Re: Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Post by [deleted] »

SerLava wrote: post #18
splintercell wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people. You understand, that this is precisely the intent. I think the "all lives matter" was a great move by a political group to use another group's ideology against themselves. ("Do all lives no matter, only black lives matter? But you can't explain the motive behind "black lives matter" without losing the narrative). Similarly even more genius move was "It's ok t…

"Black Lives Matter" is short for "Black Lives Also Matter, But You Wouldn't Know It Because Many People Behave As If They Do Not Matter As Much As The Lives of White People" That is why "all lives matter" is a sarcastic, stupid thing to say in reply.

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Re: Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Post by splintercell »

SerLava wrote: post #18
splintercell wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people. You understand, that this is precisely the intent. I think the "all lives matter" was a great move by a political group to use another group's ideology against themselves. ("Do all lives no matter, only black lives matter? But you can't explain the motive behind "black lives matter" without losing the narrative). Similarly even more genius move was "It's ok t…

"Black Lives Matter" is short for "Black Lives Also Matter, But You Wouldn't Know It Because Many People Behave As If They Do Not Matter As Much As The Lives of White People" That is why "all lives matter" is a sarcastic, stupid thing to say in reply.

I wrote a longish response to the GP thread precisely so that it doesn't create confusion, but all I am getting is "But it's stupid to say All Lives Matter".

The GP commenter is straight up giving me a privilege check, would anyone actually read what I said?

Re: Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Post by splintercell »

fwdpropaganda wrote: post #20
splintercell wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This might be parody or a game to you, but for people feeling opressed this is no joke. If you think this is "genius", that being outrageous is a game, then you're part of the problem. And what makes you think I have no say in how "my problems" are being dealt with white knights like you? Or a more interesting question, why are you presuming literally anything about me? Is it because I spoke against the narrative?

> why are you presuming literally anything about me? Saying that "all lives matter" is genius says a lot about you. Also using the expression "white knight" says the same things about you. So it's not that I'm "presuming" anything, you told me things about you. But tell me more about your problems. I would genuinely like to hear what problems you have that you're dealing with by telling people that "all lives matter"…

> Saying that "all lives matter" is genius says a lot about you.

Go somewhere else man, we don't need that on HN.

Re: Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Post by fwdpropaganda »

splintercell wrote: post #25
fwdpropaganda wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> why are you presuming literally anything about me? Saying that "all lives matter" is genius says a lot about you. Also using the expression "white knight" says the same things about you. So it's not that I'm "presuming" anything, you told me things about you. But tell me more about your problems. I would genuinely like to hear what problems you have that you're dealing with by telling people that "all lives matter"…

> Saying that "all lives matter" is genius says a lot about you. Go somewhere else man, we don't need that on HN.

Come on, tell me your problems snowflake. Must be awful when you're trying to play victim and someone else steals he spotlight by claiming that their lives matter. Damn those minorities, they have it so easy to be victims!

I think I've finally nailed the essence of "all lives matter" people. They're just people who are upset because they're losing the victimization olympics. What an amazing insight.

Re: Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Post by cratermoon »

chunky1994 wrote: post #13
e15ctr0n wrote: post #12

> nothing less than our democracy is at stake @dang, this is a brilliant piece of journalism. Any way to give it more traction on the HN home page?

It looks like someone flagged the story unfortunately. It dropped like a rock from the front page. It really is an excellently written piece

Is there a way to bring a flagged story to the attention of Hacker News people to unflag it?

Re: Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Post by dredmorbius »

aestetix wrote: post #3

"Then she told him that she had their messages on Gchat, which Fearnow had assumed weren’t accessible to Facebook." I would like to know more about this.

Possibly G Suite (formerly Google Apps for Domains).

https://gsuite.google.com

But it has a very bad smell about it. Rather like a brown shirt.

Re: Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Post by dredmorbius »

cratermoon wrote: post #27
chunky1994 wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like someone flagged the story unfortunately. It dropped like a rock from the front page. It really is an excellently written piece

Is there a way to bring a flagged story to the attention of Hacker News people to unflag it?

Email hn@ycombinator.com

Re: Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Post by jacquesm »

chunky1994 wrote: post #13
e15ctr0n wrote: post #12

> nothing less than our democracy is at stake @dang, this is a brilliant piece of journalism. Any way to give it more traction on the HN home page?

It looks like someone flagged the story unfortunately. It dropped like a rock from the front page. It really is an excellently written piece

Lots of FB employees on HN. I take it they realize the importance of HN for recruitment purposes, if you can choose between Google and Facebook which you would choose might depend on what you read here. Not that that should even be a close decision.
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