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Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Re: Inside Facebook's Hellish Two Years–and Mark Zuckerberg's Struggle to Fix It All

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Hmmm "One current employee asked that a WIRED reporter turn off his phone so the company would have a harder time tracking whether it had been near the phones of anyone from Facebook."

This is well known.

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> nothing less than our democracy is at stake @dang, this is a brilliant piece of journalism. Any way to give it more traction on the HN home page?

It looks like someone flagged the story unfortunately. It dropped like a rock from the front page. It really is an excellently written piece

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Relevant story from 2016: the NYT profiled Fearnow, the contractor who was fired for apparently leaking some screenshots to Gizmodo (but not for the story about FB's bias in curation):

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/21/technology/facebook-trend...

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> On at least a couple of occasions, someone had crossed out the words “Black Lives Matter” and replaced them with “All Lives Matter.” I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people.

> I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people.

You understand, that this is precisely the intent. I think the "all lives matter" was a great move by a political group to use another group's ideology against themselves. ("Do all lives no matter, only black lives matter? But you can't explain the motive behind "black lives matter" without losing the narrative).

Similarly even more genius move was "It's ok to be white". If you show outrage against that statement, you lose the narrative very quickly.

Take another example, body positivity activists talk about how magazine and women should depict "real women" instead of photoshopped models. Now lets just say the same group which came up with "All Lives Matter" and "It's ok to be white" comes up with a campaign "This is what a normal woman looks like" (in response to "This is what a real woman looks like"), and they post skinny-ish women in response. This is bound to piss off a lot of people in the outrage movement.

The question this raises is why is it so easy for you or others to get pissed off so easily with these simple, yet technically true slogans, and are they right about something?

"All Lives Matter" is simply a parody movement (albeit more serious) similar to "Harambe" meme, which was created in a response to the Internet petition culture and hashtag movements.

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> On at least a couple of occasions, someone had crossed out the words “Black Lives Matter” and replaced them with “All Lives Matter.” I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people.

> I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people. You understand, that this is precisely the intent. I think the "all lives matter" was a great move by a political group to use another group's ideology against themselves. ("Do all lives no matter, only black lives matter? But you can't explain the motive behind "black lives matter" without losing the narrative). Similarly even more genius move was "It's ok t…

This might be parody or a game to you, but for people feeling opressed this is no joke. If you think this is "genius", that provoking people is a game, if you feel a rush when saying or implying taboos, then you're part of the problem.

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> On at least a couple of occasions, someone had crossed out the words “Black Lives Matter” and replaced them with “All Lives Matter.” I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people.

> I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people. You understand, that this is precisely the intent. I think the "all lives matter" was a great move by a political group to use another group's ideology against themselves. ("Do all lives no matter, only black lives matter? But you can't explain the motive behind "black lives matter" without losing the narrative). Similarly even more genius move was "It's ok t…

"Black Lives Matter" is short for "Black Lives Also Matter, But You Wouldn't Know It Because Many People Behave As If They Do Not Matter As Much As The Lives of White People"

That is why "all lives matter" is a sarcastic, stupid thing to say in reply.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I really really dislike those "all lives matter" people. You understand, that this is precisely the intent. I think the "all lives matter" was a great move by a political group to use another group's ideology against themselves. ("Do all lives no matter, only black lives matter? But you can't explain the motive behind "black lives matter" without losing the narrative). Similarly even more genius move was "It's ok t…

This might be parody or a game to you, but for people feeling opressed this is no joke. If you think this is "genius", that provoking people is a game, if you feel a rush when saying or implying taboos, then you're part of the problem.

> This might be parody or a game to you, but for people feeling opressed this is no joke. If you think this is "genius", that being outrageous is a game, then you're part of the problem.

And what makes you think I have no say in how "my problems" are being dealt with white knights like you?

Or a more interesting question, why are you presuming literally anything about me? Is it because I spoke against the narrative?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This might be parody or a game to you, but for people feeling opressed this is no joke. If you think this is "genius", that provoking people is a game, if you feel a rush when saying or implying taboos, then you're part of the problem.

> This might be parody or a game to you, but for people feeling opressed this is no joke. If you think this is "genius", that being outrageous is a game, then you're part of the problem. And what makes you think I have no say in how "my problems" are being dealt with white knights like you? Or a more interesting question, why are you presuming literally anything about me? Is it because I spoke against the narrative?

> why are you presuming literally anything about me?

Saying that "all lives matter" is genius says a lot about you. Also using the expression "white knight" says the same things about you. So it's not that I'm "presuming" anything, you told me things about you.

But tell me more about your problems. I would genuinely like to hear what problems you have that you're dealing with by telling people that "all lives matter".

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