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I believe McDonalds locations inside Europe do follow EU laws, so yes.
You seem to not understand the difference in location. Of course companies in the EU follow EU laws.
And FB has presence in the EU.
German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal
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Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal
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It's not "consent" as understood by GPDR and ePrivacy. You had no recourse not to give it, therefore it was not willing and informed.
Not true, you can leave the website. The website of course has to not track you until you don't leave.
Again, this is not deemed sufficient by GDPR. According to the law you can't condition the service you're providing on collecting unrelated (to that service) data.
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It's not FB who is in the wrong, they have no control over your friends' actions.
Sure, but they have all the control over the result of those actions.
I'm sure they will delete the illegal content if you ask them to. I've seen it happen several times already, it's a bit lengthy but functioning procedure.
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> Facebook will do just fine, they had years to prepare and an army of lawyers. They won't do fine. Don't want to go into details but their actual products/required architectures for their products just can't be GDPR compliant. And they didn't prepare anything. You confuse them with Google--they prepared GDPR but FB? Btw, one of GDPR's key motivation was to take FB down.
> Btw, one of GDPR's key motivation was to take FB down. this all seems very similar to the new VAT scheme, in that it was designed to target a foreign giant (Amazon), which was barely affected as a result, and instead ended up hurting the competitiveness of the EU's own small businesses the EU Commission's response to small business concerns about that new VAT scheme? "we'll allocate some time to talk about that in…
Can you elaborate on which scheme you mean please?
Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal
#165I think if I was creating a new social media website today I'd probably not set up any presence in the EU. The sheer quantity of fines for vaguely specified "crimes" being handed out makes it a deeply unattractive business environment and it seems to be getting worse. I remember when Facebook was new, one of its big competitive advantages was its easy and comprehensive privacy controls. I didn't see other social netw…
It's a pretty rich continent of 500 millions people. Hard to ignore from a business perspective.
Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal
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Where is the ToS you agree to for the involuntary profiles they create of you if you've never used their service? https://boingboing.net/2017/11/08/involuntary-profiling.html "Facebook is well understood as being a major customer of third-party data-brokers, who compile huge dossiers on people based on their spending, internet and phone usage, employment history and so on. In addition, Facebook encourages users to up…
There's the cookie notice that every website with FB tracking code has to display to you and not track you until you give consent (e.g. by continuing to use the site). If your friends do something you don't like like uploading photos of you, FB has nothing to do with it - it's your friends who gave them the info and lied that the data they upload is uploadef rightfully.
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Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Facebook will do just fine, they had years to prepare and an army of lawyers. They won't do fine. Don't want to go into details but their actual products/required architectures for their products just can't be GDPR compliant. And they didn't prepare anything. You confuse them with Google--they prepared GDPR but FB? Btw, one of GDPR's key motivation was to take FB down.
> Btw, one of GDPR's key motivation was to take FB down. this all seems very similar to the new VAT scheme, in that it was designed to target a foreign giant (Amazon), which was barely affected as a result, and instead ended up hurting the competitiveness of the EU's own small businesses the EU Commission's response to small business concerns about that new VAT scheme? "we'll allocate some time to talk about that in…
That's not entirely true - MOSS actually works quite well, and preparing a sales report grouped by country should be trivial no matter what infrastructure you're using.
Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal
#168German news reports have a very different angle on this.
German law forbidds a real-name policy, has to allow pseudonymous usage and advertise this fact as long as it's technically possible and feasible.
German law is obvious, but not weather facebook is bound to it. The court ruled it is.
Re: German court rules Facebook use of personal data illegal
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Why wouldn't they? It's their business and you have the option of not doing business with them.
But I just explained how people don't necessarily have that choice, given that they still collect data on people who are not members of Facebook.
So how exactly do they collect data on people who are not on FB? Through websites with their tracking codes - and that's why the EU introduced so called 'cookie law' that says a website can't track you until you give consent (e.g. by continuing to use the website).
There's of course the way of other people giving them your data such as photos of you - but that's illegal and against FB TOS.
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Addressing your point #1, the EU has no enforcement mechanism for fines or otherwise unless you have physical presence (servers, offices etc...) in an EU member nation or are processing money on EU run systems. So if a social media platform strictly based outside of the EU "exports PII" from an EU resident there isn't anything the EU can do about it, other than asking google or apple to take their app off the app sto…
You do realize the EU can stop or confiscate the money that is transferred to you from European customers? Noneuropean companies already have to pay VAT on stuff they export to EU, so it is not as if there is no big collection already going on.
Yes exactly, if you don't have EU customers then again there is no risk.