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Dunno man, did you give them your personal data? If yes, then according to the TOS it's theirs. If not, there's no problem.
And why is that a good or acceptable thing? Why should one's personal data, and how that's used, be paramount?
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Or, Facebook could just not do that stuff. Part of the problem is that FB still compiles and uses data on people even if they're not FB users. FB assuredly has plenty of data on you, and uses that as they see fit, regardless of if you've agreed to their terms or not. I would hardly consider that to be 'zero effects'.
Why wouldn't they? It's their business and you have the option of not doing business with them.
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It will only hit Ireland. Thanks to some trickery they only pay 0.03% taxes on their revenue in other EU countries. Wont be a big loss.
Not true anymore (changed last year after the new VAT laws)
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#154Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dunno man, did you give them your personal data? If yes, then according to the TOS it's theirs. If not, there's no problem.
According to the law, you have to give certain rights to the user, including the right to demand cease of use and deletion of the data. So, you do not own the data and are not free to use it however you wish.
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#155I think if I was creating a new social media website today I'd probably not set up any presence in the EU. The sheer quantity of fines for vaguely specified "crimes" being handed out makes it a deeply unattractive business environment and it seems to be getting worse. I remember when Facebook was new, one of its big competitive advantages was its easy and comprehensive privacy controls. I didn't see other social netw…
2) It is a very politically stable block, with low crime and corruption, war etc.
3) 51% of the population speak English as a first or second language[1]
4) High levels of literacy
5) Free market
Sounds like a really excellent place to sell advertising, as long as you don't mind not exploiting consumers. Why would you avoid it? In favour of where?
[0]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nomi... [1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_the_European_Unio...
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And why is that a good or acceptable thing? Why should one's personal data, and how that's used, be paramount?
Because nobody forces you to use websites that track you or Facebook itself. It's your voluntary choice and in many cases also your payment for the seemingly free service.
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#158Earlier quoted context omitted.
Leaving the EU would have very strong network effects and is IMO not an option for Facebook. The entry barrier to social networks is so low now that this could trigger a mass exodus in the rest of the world.
Leaving doesn't mean erasing all the profiles. It just means shutting down local corporate presences. It'd suck for the employees but Facebook can run things out of Palo Alto just fine. I'm not sure what it'd involve for contracts and payments. But many EU firms have US legal presences too. They could easily buy ads on Facebook through their US presence. Multi-nationalism works both ways.
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#160I'd argue there is no way to properly communicate to the average facebook user how their data is being collected and used in a way that is transparent but not confusing. For example, explain to someone who is illiterate in technology how the act of you "tagging" your friend in a photo is to offload image labeling work to train a deep neural network to infer your friend's face. If you radically simplify the issue in l…
That's a good simple explanation IMO. If it sounds scary, maybe it is.