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The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by make3 »

lostcolony wrote: post #104
make3 wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

this might be an unpopular opinion, but I think copyright is a good thing, as it allows for artists to actually get paid for their work

Totally. Which is why it ends with the author's death. OH WAIT. But it's totally necessary; back before it existed no one ever made any money for their creative works, so with no incentive no one ever made anything creative before copyright law. OH WAIT.

1. things that are worth something (like money) don't disappear at their owners death

2. this is disingenuous. it is already the case that the massive majority of artists have a very hard time generating a sustainable revenue stream from their work, and this has always been the case. the goal of a copyright system is, amongst other things, to try to help with that.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by allpratik »

Claiming about BitTorrent usage just on declining bandwidth doesn't makes a lot of sense. Since, now ISP has started caching things and using solutions like Torbox to enable their customers to enjoy torrents on high speed.

This might be affecting overall bandwidth numbers of bitTorrent. But from usage point of view, I absolutely do not see any decline. Programs like Popcorn time are actually phenomenal in terms of their UI/UX, thus it's getting adopted crazily.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by pmarreck »

As long as channels like The CW will play 5 minutes of ads (half of them being for The CW) for every 10 minutes of "The Flash," torrenting will never die. Sorry, but that's fucking ridiculous.

As long as I learn that a show I wanted to watch today on Netflix was taken away by Netflix yesterday, torrenting will never die.

Especially if you use a neat service like https://bitport.io/ and/or a VPN like https://speedify.com/

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by mmozeiko »

Obi_Juan_Kenobi wrote: post #109
Semaphor wrote: post #78

The reason why for me, someone with a netflix and amazon prime account in Germany, bittorrent is neither dead nor declining (for movies and TV shows): a) Being on time. If you want to take part in the online discussion about tv shows, you have to watch them on time. For a ton of shows I can't even buy episodes on the day they come out. Torrenting is still the far superior choice. b) Languages. Yes netflix, I know tha…

Is German Netflix that bad? In the USA, I can choose the audio and subtitle language pretty easily; it's even supported on their Plex app and so forth. Example: I just watched "Dark" and it defaulted to English dub, but it just took a second to switch it to German with English subtitles.

Netflix provides Plex app? Where? I would really like to use Netflix in Plex.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by khedoros1 »

petre wrote: post #121
lostcolony wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally. Which is why it ends with the author's death. OH WAIT. But it's totally necessary; back before it existed no one ever made any money for their creative works, so with no incentive no one ever made anything creative before copyright law. OH WAIT.

What if the author is a company? Like Disney.

I disagree with the premise that the company could be an author. It's the employer of the authors, commissioning them to create something. I'd call Disney the copyright holder.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by Semaphor »

microtonal wrote: post #127
Semaphor wrote: post #78

The reason why for me, someone with a netflix and amazon prime account in Germany, bittorrent is neither dead nor declining (for movies and TV shows): a) Being on time. If you want to take part in the online discussion about tv shows, you have to watch them on time. For a ton of shows I can't even buy episodes on the day they come out. Torrenting is still the far superior choice. b) Languages. Yes netflix, I know tha…

a) Being on time. If you want to take part in the online discussion about tv shows, you have to watch them on time. For a ton of shows I can't even buy episodes on the day they come out. Torrenting is still the far superior choice. I generally found that buying a season pass on iTunes typically gives you episodes as soon as they come out. They often offer shows in the original version and with German subtitles/audio.…

Is it possible to watch stuff on iTunes without downloading their software? Because I have limits.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by coldacid »

distances wrote: post #115
lostcolony wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Totally. Which is why it ends with the author's death. OH WAIT. But it's totally necessary; back before it existed no one ever made any money for their creative works, so with no incentive no one ever made anything creative before copyright law. OH WAIT.

This kind of rhetoric is quite tiresome, please don't.

He's not wrong, though.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by some-guy »

blt wrote: post #9

Saving movies to disk doesn't make much sense. The files are huge, and rewatching is not that common. BitTorrent is great for music, sadly we lost what.cd to law enforcement.

what.cd has a spiritual successor that is fairly close to its former glory (redacted.ch)

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by coldacid »

xyzzyz wrote: post #95
bdz wrote: post #16

At least where I live, Hungary, torrenting was decriminalized some years ago as long as someone isn't doing it for profit. It's still illegal but they stopped going after end users. The biggest private tracker has 770k users atm with an exceptional 1452% seed to leech ratio. Basically almost everyone (ie daily internet users) is using it in the country. Also they introduced a "blank media" tax on everything (CD, DVD,…

In Poland, downloading movies, music and books (but not software) as a regular person is completely legal. What is not legal is distributing them, so you have to make sure to disable uploading in your torrent client.

Of course, that'll slow down your torrents a lot, as leech detection does exist and most clients will punish pure leechers.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by pmarreck »

k__ wrote: post #90
Semaphor wrote: post #78

The reason why for me, someone with a netflix and amazon prime account in Germany, bittorrent is neither dead nor declining (for movies and TV shows): a) Being on time. If you want to take part in the online discussion about tv shows, you have to watch them on time. For a ton of shows I can't even buy episodes on the day they come out. Torrenting is still the far superior choice. b) Languages. Yes netflix, I know tha…

I mostly use streaming sites instead of BT these days. Got burned once when my flatmate downloaded family guy and we got "mail" by an attorney of 20th century fox... But yes, I got Netflix and Amazon Prime too. They simply don't have everything in every language.

https://bitport.io/ or a VPN like https://speedify.com/ to get around that
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