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The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by cuckcuckspruce »

justrobert wrote: post #76
Spivak wrote: post #67

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm reading a tiny bit into the comment so let me state it plainly: > A few people I know just check out movie from the local Library on DVD or Bluray, rip them and then watch them from Plex, [and then return the DVD or Bluray without deleting the ripped copy]. This is textbook piracy.

Again when it comes to the USA copyright law, it is about distribution. A person who copies a specific work and does not distribute it is not breaking the law as far as I am aware. That is why I'd be interested in seeing what laws have been broken.

It's certainly a DMCA violation if you broke any DRM to make that copy. That does not require distribution.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by Feniks »

Bittorrent is declining because the big mainstream stuff that people want is now after years available for convenient streaming. The industry has finally adapted.

If you want to read Ever17 bittorrent will aways be there keeping it available to mankind. Since I DO believe creators should be payed when possible I see this a win. Piracy for me was always about being a library of Alexandria. Not a way to steal the latest Hollywood trash.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by erikdared »

jjeaff wrote: post #8
monksy wrote: post #3

Putting Kodi under "Streaming Piracy" is pretty inflamitory. Kodi isn't there to enable streaming piracy. (There are non-offical plugins that do that, but they've made many announcements about Kodi's stance on Piracy)

But let's be honest, 99.99% of Kodi and Plex use is purely for pirated content. Otherwise, I'm not sure where everyone is getting all these non DRM digital downloads. And most aren't using special plugins with Kodi, they just use Kodi to play their content they get from torrents and Usenet.

Besides ripping owned physical media, I've also used Kodi to watch OTA broadcast TV that I've recorded via software from a HDHomerun tuner.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by goblins »

make3 wrote: post #74
mattmanser wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until the EU want to do a new trade deal with the US, and the US decides it wants to co-opt your legal framework to enforce its commercial appropriation of European culture, history and stories through Disney and Hollywood. And then you'll be getting lots of enforcement. The whole copyright thing is just a US export thing, as soon as it becomes a problem for them, they'll force the EU to make it a problem for you too…

this might be an unpopular opinion, but I think copyright is a good thing, as it allows for artists to actually get paid for their work

Unfortunately that is rarely the case especially in the US.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by gruez »

blt wrote: post #9

Saving movies to disk doesn't make much sense. The files are huge, and rewatching is not that common. BitTorrent is great for music, sadly we lost what.cd to law enforcement.

>Saving movies to disk doesn't make much sense. The files are huge, and rewatching is not that common.

still, you can get much better quality (bitrate, not resolution) via torrents, which is why i don't use streaming sites.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by DonHopkins »

rjvir wrote: post #53

This strikes me as an area where distributed apps on a blockchain could have a big impact. Currently, top piracy options like torrent websites and Kodi addons constantly get taken down by the government (through methods described in this article). But what happens if a distributed YouTube exists with every movie in pristine 1080p quality, that lives on a blockchain so the government can't shut it down or issue DMCA t…

Even more CO2 is released into the atmosphere and even more global warming happens.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by jsheard »

fwdpropaganda wrote: post #48
blt wrote: post #9

Saving movies to disk doesn't make much sense. The files are huge, and rewatching is not that common. BitTorrent is great for music, sadly we lost what.cd to law enforcement.

I have 500 GB of disk and am barely using 100 GB. Files are huge compared to what? 1-2 GB seems tiny to me.

1-2GB doesn't cut it for a movie in the HD era. These days you're generally looking at 5-6GB for a passable 1080p rip, 8-10GB for close to Bluray quality, or as much as 50GB for 4K/HDR.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by chickenfries »

jimmies wrote: post #62

I can't read the article because the website is down. But I have something to say about torrenting movies. Late last year, my old parents who don't speak English came to visit me for a couple of months in the US. I'm just a graduate student with a limited budget, and my mom is car sick so we couldn't go out every night. I didn't want them to waste time on Facebook after dinner until we went to bed, so I had to think…

Thank you for sharing this story. I hope you and your parents are able to connect again when you finish school.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by ythn »

Spivak wrote: post #42
ythn wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But let's be honest, 99.99% of Kodi and Plex use is purely for pirated content. Otherwise, I'm not sure where everyone is getting all these non DRM digital downloads. Do you count digitizing my existing DVD collection with Handbrake "piracy"? I don't.

Nobody does (or should)-- it's not copyright infringement.

Sometimes people group it with piracy since technically it's a DCMA/DRM violation

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by k__ »

Semaphor wrote: post #78

The reason why for me, someone with a netflix and amazon prime account in Germany, bittorrent is neither dead nor declining (for movies and TV shows): a) Being on time. If you want to take part in the online discussion about tv shows, you have to watch them on time. For a ton of shows I can't even buy episodes on the day they come out. Torrenting is still the far superior choice. b) Languages. Yes netflix, I know tha…

I mostly use streaming sites instead of BT these days.

Got burned once when my flatmate downloaded family guy and we got "mail" by an attorney of 20th century fox...

But yes, I got Netflix and Amazon Prime too. They simply don't have everything in every language.

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