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The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by jstarfish »

make3 wrote: post #74
mattmanser wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until the EU want to do a new trade deal with the US, and the US decides it wants to co-opt your legal framework to enforce its commercial appropriation of European culture, history and stories through Disney and Hollywood. And then you'll be getting lots of enforcement. The whole copyright thing is just a US export thing, as soon as it becomes a problem for them, they'll force the EU to make it a problem for you too…

this might be an unpopular opinion, but I think copyright is a good thing, as it allows for artists to actually get paid for their work

I agree, but the current landscape is such that it feels like seeing a street performer only accepting tips in Bitcoin. Do you want my money or not?

It's made clear to me every time I want to go watch something and am willing to pay money for it but it's not available on any of the platforms (read: middlemen) I pay to subscribe to; I have to subscribe to yet another one just to see that show. Or it was there until yesterday, then it was removed without warning.

I found myself in a position recently where the only way I could watch a particular show would be if I went down to the store and bought the box set on DVD. But I don't own a DVD player, haven't needed one in years, and wasn't about to buy one..

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by yjftsjthsd-h »

upofadown wrote: post #36

So show actual decline the article would have to use some metric based on absolute bitorrent bandwidth. Instead it uses percentages of total traffic. So it could just be showing that Nefix has gotten popular, not anything about bitorrent.

Especially since we know that Netflix has grown to be a ridiculous percentage of all traffic

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by sengork »

JeremyBanks wrote: post #66
grondilu wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What's more interesting to me is using BitTorrent not for pirated movies but as a content distribution system enabling more free services like Wikipedia. That should be much higher in Wikimedia's TODO list, IMHO. There is a browser extension called WikipediaP2P for chrome, but if I'm not mistaken the author is not affiliated with the Wikimedia foundation and it's only for chrome. I donated money once to the foundat…

https://datproject.org/ with https://beakerbrowser.com/ or the upcoming Firefox extension is the most currently-promising project in this space.

A bit similar to Opera Unite circa 2009:

http://www.operasoftware.com/press/releases/general/opera-un...

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by xyzzyz »

bdz wrote: post #16

At least where I live, Hungary, torrenting was decriminalized some years ago as long as someone isn't doing it for profit. It's still illegal but they stopped going after end users. The biggest private tracker has 770k users atm with an exceptional 1452% seed to leech ratio. Basically almost everyone (ie daily internet users) is using it in the country. Also they introduced a "blank media" tax on everything (CD, DVD,…

In Poland, downloading movies, music and books (but not software) as a regular person is completely legal. What is not legal is distributing them, so you have to make sure to disable uploading in your torrent client.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by fwdpropaganda »

jsheard wrote: post #87
fwdpropaganda wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have 500 GB of disk and am barely using 100 GB. Files are huge compared to what? 1-2 GB seems tiny to me.

1-2GB doesn't cut it for a movie in the HD era. These days you're generally looking at 5-6GB for a passable 1080p rip, 8-10GB for close to Bluray quality, or as much as 50GB for 4K/HDR.

I know I'm not alone because the top seed for each title on the pirate bay is almost always either the 700mb or the 1-2GB version.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by xyzzyz »

make3 wrote: post #74
mattmanser wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Until the EU want to do a new trade deal with the US, and the US decides it wants to co-opt your legal framework to enforce its commercial appropriation of European culture, history and stories through Disney and Hollywood. And then you'll be getting lots of enforcement. The whole copyright thing is just a US export thing, as soon as it becomes a problem for them, they'll force the EU to make it a problem for you too…

this might be an unpopular opinion, but I think copyright is a good thing, as it allows for artists to actually get paid for their work

You mean, it allows corporations to make money. Actual artists derive most of their income either from salaries, or are paid for performances.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by Semaphor »

k__ wrote: post #90
Semaphor wrote: post #78

The reason why for me, someone with a netflix and amazon prime account in Germany, bittorrent is neither dead nor declining (for movies and TV shows): a) Being on time. If you want to take part in the online discussion about tv shows, you have to watch them on time. For a ton of shows I can't even buy episodes on the day they come out. Torrenting is still the far superior choice. b) Languages. Yes netflix, I know tha…

I mostly use streaming sites instead of BT these days. Got burned once when my flatmate downloaded family guy and we got "mail" by an attorney of 20th century fox... But yes, I got Netflix and Amazon Prime too. They simply don't have everything in every language.

> I mostly use streaming sites instead of BT these days.

Why? You have to get through tons of ads, have to hope they are of decent quality, etc. With BT I download, and in about 5 minutes I have the whole thing in HD.

Re: The Long, Slow Decline of BitTorrent (2017)

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Post by pbhjpbhj »

empthought wrote: post #10
jjeaff wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But let's be honest, 99.99% of Kodi and Plex use is purely for pirated content. Otherwise, I'm not sure where everyone is getting all these non DRM digital downloads. And most aren't using special plugins with Kodi, they just use Kodi to play their content they get from torrents and Usenet.

I can't speak for anyone else, but I only use Plex for format-shifting DVDs I've purchased. While this may be a violation of the DMCA's prohibition against breaking copy protection, it is not piracy or even actionable copyright infringement.

In UK this is tortuous again, having been made specifically allowed.

Apparently people watching DVDs they've purchased somehow harms the public good. Yay, go Tories!

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