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“Study Death Always”: Seneca’s advice for living centered on dying

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I've been an avid reader of Stoicism, and was introduced to it by, you guessed it, Tim Ferriss. I have been conciously trying to adopt the philosophies and mantras into my day to day life. Have compiled the following tangible techniques/approaches to thought feel free to add your own: * Premeditatio Malorum (premeditation of evils or Negative Visualization) * Stoic Fork - Make the best use of things in your control a…

I'm genuinely curious - what is this mindset supposed to accomplish?

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Can you suggest few readings?

I like Nietszche, Emerson (especially 'Self-Reliance'), Walt Whitman and the Tao Te Ching. For fiction Zorba the Greek and Dune are two of my favorites.

I like Emerson's Circles essay. It's helped me maintain some humility many times.

Kant's CI for ethics.

Tao Te Ching for perspective and focus.

Nonviolent communication by Marshall Rosenberg for confrontation and interpersonal communication. The concept of NVC and, through its negation, violent communication underscores so much of what's currently going on in the world.

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The Bible edit: For those of you down voting me for whatever reason, can you at least contribute to the discussion and explain how my answer was a poor one? The bible is one of the greatest stories ever told containing a myriad of different ways at looking at life.

A particularly important read concerning the meaning of life is the book of Ecclesiastes. It tells of Solomon’s great experiment of finding meaning in knowledge, pleasure, wealth, accomplishment, etc.. I am often bewildered by those who pour a great deal of energy in planning for retirement and ignoring the fact that they will soon thereafter be pushing up daisies. Death awaits us all.

I pour a lot into retirement because I don't want my final days to be a time of financial hardship or to be a burden on my children.

Today, I can easily move around, feed/wash myself, and but that won't be true forever. Putting money away for later gives me some measure of confidence I'll be able to pay someone to help me when the time comes.

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For some reason HN has been mimetically pulled into the seneca philosophy. Just so you guys know, there are many many many other philosophies and really great books about ways to look at life and how to live it than just stoicism. Don't let something as important as a life philosophy be steered by social media influencer culture. Take some time to read from sources outside your filter bubble. Your 70 year old self wi…

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For some reason HN has been mimetically pulled into the seneca philosophy. Just so you guys know, there are many many many other philosophies and really great books about ways to look at life and how to live it than just stoicism. Don't let something as important as a life philosophy be steered by social media influencer culture. Take some time to read from sources outside your filter bubble. Your 70 year old self wi…

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For some reason HN has been mimetically pulled into the seneca philosophy. Just so you guys know, there are many many many other philosophies and really great books about ways to look at life and how to live it than just stoicism. Don't let something as important as a life philosophy be steered by social media influencer culture. Take some time to read from sources outside your filter bubble. Your 70 year old self wi…

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The project I run, Standard Ebooks, has all of Seneca's dialogs available for free for your ereader: https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/seneca/dialogues/aubrey-st... If you're interested in Stoic philosophy, Marcus Aurelius is also an excellent read: https://standardebooks.org/ebooks/marcus-aurelius/meditation... Stewart's Seneca translation is admittedly not a super great one, but it does the job. Long's Marcus Aurel…

While I like Marcus Aurelius, I find Gregory Hays' translation more readable than Long's.

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For some reason HN has been mimetically pulled into the seneca philosophy. Just so you guys know, there are many many many other philosophies and really great books about ways to look at life and how to live it than just stoicism. Don't let something as important as a life philosophy be steered by social media influencer culture. Take some time to read from sources outside your filter bubble. Your 70 year old self wi…

Can you suggest few readings?

Practice of Perfection and Christian Virtues

by Alphonsus Rodriguez[1], translated by Josephy Rickaby[2]

https://archive.org/stream/PPCV-Manresa#page/n3/mode/2up

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alonso_Rodriguez

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Rickaby

Re: “Study Death Always”: Seneca’s advice for living centered on dying

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A particularly important read concerning the meaning of life is the book of Ecclesiastes. It tells of Solomon’s great experiment of finding meaning in knowledge, pleasure, wealth, accomplishment, etc.. I am often bewildered by those who pour a great deal of energy in planning for retirement and ignoring the fact that they will soon thereafter be pushing up daisies. Death awaits us all.

I pour a lot into retirement because I don't want my final days to be a time of financial hardship or to be a burden on my children. Today, I can easily move around, feed/wash myself, and but that won't be true forever. Putting money away for later gives me some measure of confidence I'll be able to pay someone to help me when the time comes.

Why not kill yourself when you get too old to wash/feed yourself? I'm being serious. I've asked myself that many times and can't find a good reason why not.

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Aurelius said that all you have is the present moment so when you die the only thing you can lose is the present moment. That one really stuck with me.

He was wrong. When you are alive you have not just "the present moment but also all your future moments to look forward to -- and you have thoughts about what to do in those moments.

It's only for the last 'present moment' that what he said holds.

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