Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe in Europe? Not in the USA it isn’t. We’ve seen drops in homicides and the like in some cities (NYC), but disturbing trends in homicides places like Baltimore and Chicago.
Numbers please.
26% of violent crime convicts account for 63% of violent crime conviction (2014)
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#202Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe in Europe? Not in the USA it isn’t. We’ve seen drops in homicides and the like in some cities (NYC), but disturbing trends in homicides places like Baltimore and Chicago.
Even in the US it's declining. It's just much higher. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/10/0... (I suspect from the places named that the more corrupt the police are the more violence is present, but have no evidence for that).
It has nothing to do with police corruption, and everything to do with the pull back in policing due to anti-police media/BLM narrative. But don’t take my word for it, just ask the people that live there and who are the victims of such crime:
https://www.npr.org/2017/12/31/574824963/baltimore-residents...
A particularly powerful quote from the article:
On whether the community wanted police to back off after the death of Freddie Gray
“No. That represented our progressives, our activists, our liberal journalists, our politicians, but it did not represent the overall community. Because we know for a fact that around the time Freddie Gray was killed, we start to see homicides increase. We had five homicides in that neighborhood while we were protesting.”
I wonder if the media provocateurs and the liberal journalists will look into this, or perhaps even consider the idea that their narrative has directly lead to the deaths of minorities?
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#203I'd love to hear whether 1% account for all white collar crime. But Willie Horton terrifies people in a way that Bernie Madoff does not, so I expect that "tough on crime" will continue to exclude white collar crime.
Not sure why you got downvoted. You make an interesting point.
How would you measure? Dollar value? Number of crimes? Number of victims of crime?
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Prison is a deterrent, certainly, but it also exists to keep violent folks away from the rest of society so they can't do more harm.
The problem is that they become worse in prison. I’d be for a policy where once you went to jail you were never let out into the general population — you’d have to go live on an island with ex-prisoners.
Sort of like transportation?
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#205Maybe we should stop seeing people who are violent as people that we need to punish and start seeing them as people who need help. I'm not a specialist, but I'd think that giving someone a job, a place to live, and a weekly therapy session would do a lot more to prevent future crime than locking him up with a bunch of other violent offenders that have nothing to do all day long. Sometimes restricting someones freedom…
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#207I'd love to hear whether 1% account for all white collar crime. But Willie Horton terrifies people in a way that Bernie Madoff does not, so I expect that "tough on crime" will continue to exclude white collar crime.
Not sure why you got downvoted. You make an interesting point. How would you measure? Dollar value? Number of crimes? Number of victims of crime?
Mmm, I'd say number of crimes. The recidivism rate would would be very interesting to study because it is so typical for white collar criminals to receive absurdly light sentences.
There's a sentiment here in this discussion that we should lock violent criminals away with extreme prejudice, even at the cost of false positives. (Which is the at odds with the idea of having criminal conviction require proof "beyond a reasonable doubt".) I wonder if people are similarly enthusiastic about such harsh treatment of white-collar criminals.
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Bar brawls between consenting adults.
It'd be interesting to see how often the state presses assault charges without much participation from one of the parties involved.
Not often unless they already have a reason to target the person (repeat offender, wanted for another crime they can't prove, etc).
I remember being in Texas and seeing on the news how a guy shot another guy in a bar and they were not prosecuting because the person who was shot was not pressing charges, but that's Texas.
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#209in other words, 99% of people are mostly peaceful.
99% of swedes from <2004 aka 99% of white people
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I am not being uncharitable. I am asking whether the poster has analyzed the number of studies in the USA, structured as carefully as this one, and found that they are in fact labelled racist more than 50% of the time. And if so, by whom. I don't think the poster needs charity. Clarity is more like it.
I think what you're asking for is unreasonable. Labelled racist by who? How do you count 50%? Does it matter if only one fringe group labels it racist? Or does it have to be called racist by a group with political capital > X. It also leaves any potential of discussing "chilling effect" like things. You're measurement does nothing to gauge the overall zeitgeist of the time, which would clearly influence the outlook o…
I agree with your "labelled racist by who, how do you count, etc" questions. But that just throws the meaninglessness of the original statement into starker relief: it's simply an empty expression of unsupported complaint. Your finishing formulation, is unfortunately simply more prolix.
I do not see those sorts of comments as up to the usual standards of HackerNews. Perhaps to be expected on an article like this, but still they should be discouraged.