The Gender Earnings Gap: Evidence from Over a Million Rideshare Drivers [pdf]

Post by olleromam91 » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 2:03 AM UTC

pbiggar wrote: post #24

klipt wrote: post #21

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Well obviously if the choices were simply "Push button A to get money, or push button B to get more money" then everyone would push button B. But in reality there are other factors. Like "button B has a slightly higher chance of injuring you". Or "button B can only be pushed late at night". It's entirely possible that people are biologically programmed to have different risk/effort/reward preference curves.

You've hit the nail on the head with "button B can only be pushed at night". If we set up society such that it's riskier for one group to access good earning potential, basically the definition of systemic bias. To be more concrete here, if it's unsafe for women to drive uber at 2am on a Friday night because of the risk of assault, that's systemic bias (and it should be fixed).

Post by danjoc » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 2:16 AM UTC

aisofteng wrote: post #28

danjoc wrote: post #23

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>I don't see how you could do this without rewarding inefficiency and inexperience. It's easy though. Just pay women more. Uber can take a smaller cut of your pay if you have two x chromosomes. Another approach would be to allow passengers to chose their driver's gender. More passengers will chose female over male drivers.

That's wage discrimination and is illegal.

Post by jelgt2011 » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 2:40 AM UTC

little_data wrote: post #7

"Furthermore, while Uber now allows riders to tip their drivers in-app, this did not become available until June 2017, which is outside the scope of our data. We do not believe that cash tips – which were possible before in-app tipping – had a material impact on driver earnings." The study did not have any actual tip data for drivers. Tipping was always an option in Uber before June 2017, it just became mandatory for…

Post by Geeek » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 3:00 AM UTC

danjoc wrote: post #37

Geeek wrote: post #35

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"for equal work" you missed the most important line. This paper is showing that they are not doing equal work. Not time wise nor trip wise.

Women are making less money driving the same amount of time. The easiest fix is to pay women more. The technical fix is to auto report speeders (mostly men) to the cops for automated tickets. Since we're all about upholding the law here, Uber knows they are speeding and putting people at risk for a few bucks. Uber should report them to the authorities for proper penalties.

Post by danjoc » Thu, Feb 08, 2018, 3:16 AM UTC

Geeek wrote: post #38

danjoc wrote: post #37

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Women are making less money driving the same amount of time. The easiest fix is to pay women more. The technical fix is to auto report speeders (mostly men) to the cops for automated tickets. Since we're all about upholding the law here, Uber knows they are speeding and putting people at risk for a few bucks. Uber should report them to the authorities for proper penalties.

You really should read the paper. One of the factors influencing their pay is the amount of time spent driving, so no, they are not "driving the same amount of time". Secondly, nowhere does it say they are going above the speed limit only that they drive speedier.