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HP had some interesting policies which were of great benefit to women. I've been told that HP lets people share a position. Two people can work half time with full benefits, then they are evaluated and promoted as one unit. Many women who were raising families opted to do this. Tactically, this seems great, but the question that comes to my mind is, if such a practice were widely adopted throughout the industrialized…
Where/what is HP?
Oh man, this thread is going of the rails pretty quickly. Come on HN, be peaceful
I don't know why we always seem to treat earning less as being this universally terrible, bad thing whenever gender comes up. There is a lot more to life and jobs than just earning money. Work life balance, stress, danger, physical wear.
The general expectation for men seems to be: "Go get a good paying job". Obviously every family is different but where family economics allow I think woman generally have far more choice in terms of whether they stay home, work part time, work less stressful/demanding jobs than men do in today's society.
I've seen a lot of relationships/marriages where the man works a shitty backbreaking/dangerous and/or stressful jobs that pay well while the woman works part time, not at all or a much less stressful job that pays less. I'm sure the inverse does happen as well but from what I've seen it is much rarer.
These types of articles always frame earning less as being a negative for woman. In some cases I'm sure that is true. But what % of the gap is woman choosing to earn less because they have that choice?
The point of having to ~"force fathers to take time off" rings true to me, I'd even go as far as forcing both parents to take some minimum time (and maybe of equal length) off: It would relieve all parents of the pressure to justify why they "put family before career".
Wow. You know there are sci-fi books written about a world were some people are not allowed to be better than others? If you have some advantage, you have to do extra so it's nullified. Seriously, who are you to tell me how to run my family life? Your arrogance is astonishing. I suppose if I don't push my kids just the right amount you're going to claim you know enough about how all children will turn out to revoke m…
If one parent decides to stay at home for years, we are not talking about parental leave anymore. And of course everybody should be free to make that decision. But nobody should be forced to decide one or the other way because of gender-specific roles or a lack of affordable daycare.
And finally I believe that, by forcing everyone to think about how to accommodate parents in work life, we, as a society, will find solutions that can benefit all.
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And, to prove this point, the gender ratio is much better in STEM fields other than computing and engineering. Biology, for example, has more women graduating nowadays than men, despite the fact that a lot of biology work is actually CS (and more intellectually challenging than most software engineering jobs at tech companies, which to a large extent involve creating CRUD apps).
From working in that field, I can tell you this is not true. There are lots of women in biology but in computational biology its more like one in three (and often much less). In the algorithmic and tool developmental parts even more so. It may be more equal than in pure CS but still the imbalance is huge.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VrOp8ewzJDc
So a hiring rate of 40% would indicate a level playing field in hiring. 33/40 is around 82%. The doubling down policies of "The (metaphoric) beatings will continue until equality is achieved," would seem to be misplaced at the workplace level. If there is systemic bias, it would seem to exist at the educational level.
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A woman does not equal a man, and she shouldn't. Careful with your wording here. I'm assuming you meant 'is not the same as'; however 'does not equal' could easily be interpreted as 'not the equal of', which has an entirely different meaning than you intended.
Careful with your reading here. As written it is perfectly clear.
Can't count the number of times I have seen people willingly (hopefully) misinterpret something in order to create drama.
That and "always assume negative intent" fallacy makes for an impossible task for anyone talking about certain subjects.
Bonus round, add "always defer to identity."
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A woman does not equal a man, and she shouldn't. Careful with your wording here. I'm assuming you meant 'is not the same as'; however 'does not equal' could easily be interpreted as 'not the equal of', which has an entirely different meaning than you intended.
Careful with your reading here. As written it is perfectly clear.
If you choose to have children then your career is raising children. You have to choose to prioritize one or the other, the idea that you can take large amounts of time off and still be at the same level as people who kept working is insane. There isn't any injustice going on here. Juggling an intense career path with raising children is a bad idea. Sending children to day care for large amounts of their youth has be…
Instinctually, I agree with you on the effects of years of daycare on development...could you point me to one or two of your sources? I hate to be that guy on HN, just looking for some confirmation for my bias here :)
http://psycnet.apa.org/buy/1992-08554-001
thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/familyfacts/briefs/FF_Brief_43.pdf
If you choose to have children then your career is raising children. You have to choose to prioritize one or the other, the idea that you can take large amounts of time off and still be at the same level as people who kept working is insane. There isn't any injustice going on here. Juggling an intense career path with raising children is a bad idea. Sending children to day care for large amounts of their youth has be…
> Sending children to day care for large amounts of their youth has been shown to be highly detrimental to their development. Can you give me a few links on this? Our child is in daycare, and we both work.
http://psycnet.apa.org/buy/1992-08554-001
thf_media.s3.amazonaws.com/familyfacts/briefs/FF_Brief_43.pdf
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> Men tend to choose STEM careers and competitive paths because they are free to choose, and women tend to choose to become doctors, nurses, and part-time workers of any kind, because they are also free to choose. Citation needed. In 1997, only 1 out of 3 doctors were women in Norway. [1] Did it significally change during the past 20 years? Also, since 1990 the ratio of part-time workers lowered among women and went…
Citation needed. In 1997, only 1 out of 3 doctors were women in Norway. [1] Did it significally change during the past 20 years? Apparently graduation rates in medical fields favor women in some parts of the industrialized world. "Women taking over as medical specialists" http://norwaytoday.info/news/women-taking-medical-specialist...