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Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Post by untog »

artificial wrote: post #10
lj3 wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> but will not pay for web sites. Subscriptions to web-based services don't count as paying for web sites?

How many people would you say subscribe to something they pay for online? For example news? The pool of subscribers for magazines and news is an ever shrinking pie. I know of no one in the last three jobs that maintains a subscription that’s under under age 40.

This feels like kind of an aside - do those under 40s you know readily pay for news apps, but not for web subscriptions? If not it's not really related to the issue at hand.

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Post by verytrivial »

danpalmer wrote: post #6
pentae wrote: post #2

Ahh the app store. It's just like the internet, except the websites are mini apps, and a mega corporation gets to control whats on it. And takes 30% of everything you make. Brilliant.

Ahh the App Store. It's just like the Play Store, except no viruses, far fewer scam apps, and there's a legitimate and thriving market for paid apps.

You're stating this as if it is an argument against the parent's claims, but I fail to see how it is.

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Post by thanatropism »

sr-ix wrote: post #51
thanatropism wrote: post #28

Every social network has a "weird" subset. "Weird facebook" is circularly-referencing visual memes. Weird Telegram is people who mix their Deleuze and Bataille and come up with something like the Andy Kaufmann version of witchcraft mysticism. I mean, it's awesome.

where can I find weird telegram?

Ask around in subreddits like sorcery of the spectacle, etc.

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Post by pr0ph3t »

mcguire wrote: post #13

" Telegram has risen in popularity thanks to its focus on advanced security features and the ability to hold secret conversations with end-to-end encryption. ... Telegram was forced to create a team of moderators in Indonesia to remove “terrorist-related content” after the Indonesian government threatened to ban the messaging app. " Wait, how does that work?

Telegram has public channels that aren't encrypted.

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

danpalmer wrote: post #6
pentae wrote: post #2

Ahh the app store. It's just like the internet, except the websites are mini apps, and a mega corporation gets to control whats on it. And takes 30% of everything you make. Brilliant.

Ahh the App Store. It's just like the Play Store, except no viruses, far fewer scam apps, and there's a legitimate and thriving market for paid apps.

What are you arguing here? Why do some people always have to use the, "Well, at least we don't do what that other guy is doing!" (non)argument? Why can't we make arguments for or against what a single company has decided to do? Doesn't that make so much more sense?

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Post by PeterMikhailov »

sr-ix wrote: post #51
thanatropism wrote: post #28

Every social network has a "weird" subset. "Weird facebook" is circularly-referencing visual memes. Weird Telegram is people who mix their Deleuze and Bataille and come up with something like the Andy Kaufmann version of witchcraft mysticism. I mean, it's awesome.

where can I find weird telegram?

Russian meme world

https://telegram.me/ebanistika

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Post by phoneboy »

squarefoot wrote: post #79
pentae wrote: post #2

Ahh the app store. It's just like the internet, except the websites are mini apps, and a mega corporation gets to control whats on it. And takes 30% of everything you make. Brilliant.

"except the websites are mini apps, and a mega corporation gets to control whats on it" There is more to it. Using apps instead of websites we're killing the whole concept of making information and services available using a standard protocol. That's like going back over 30 years, even before gopher. Then there is the cloud->mainframe similarity, with data and services being moved somewhere into the net where the use…

That's why we need decentralized solutions that break the hold the current centralized platforms have on us.

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Post by emsy »

mahemm wrote: post #65

Following all of the negative press Signal has gotten recently, I feel it's unethical to let a Telegram post pass without a reminder that they don't even bother to encrypt group chats, and that there is still no proof whatsoever that their protocol is secure.

You are a murderer and I still have seen no proof whatsoever that you are innocent.

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Post by vinay427 »

phoneboy wrote: post #53
vinay427 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The app stores you mentioned are inextricably to their respective operating systems. The problems with the Play Store are a compromise I'm willing to deal with so I can easily install apps using alternative app stores or none at all.

The store is their way to control their ecosystem, has nothing to do with the OS. This effort is a power-play against decentralized apps that threaten the centralized platform model.

Yes, but my point is that the Play Store inherently allows for competition and limit's Google's control because they chose to develop it on a platform that allows for competing app stores and sideloading. Regardless of Google's choices in managing the Play Store, that stark difference between Google's approach and Apple's approach remains.

Re: Telegram removed from the App Store for 'inappropriate content'

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Post by ethbro »

phoneboy wrote: post #87
squarefoot wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"except the websites are mini apps, and a mega corporation gets to control whats on it" There is more to it. Using apps instead of websites we're killing the whole concept of making information and services available using a standard protocol. That's like going back over 30 years, even before gopher. Then there is the cloud->mainframe similarity, with data and services being moved somewhere into the net where the use…

That's why we need decentralized solutions that break the hold the current centralized platforms have on us.

The problem wasn't that we didn't have decentralized solutions since the 1960s -- it was that we've never figured out a way to make hosting your own environment as easy / cheap as using an externally managed one.
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