A layman's question: is it implied to be a universal cure, or for a specific type?
Cancer ‘vaccine’ eliminates tumors in mice
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Re: Cancer ‘vaccine’ eliminates tumors in mice
#32i feel like i see a new 'cure' every week. How is this different aside from the pedigree?
Re: Cancer ‘vaccine’ eliminates tumors in mice
#33This seems to be the actual paper: http://stm.sciencemag.org/content/10/426/eaan4488 I hope this translates well to humans and other mammals.
I see that authors are from Stanford University. Can someone from the US clarify if this will be in public domain/knowledge, or is it possible some drug company will patent this later on?
If some drug company doesn't pick this up it will fall by the wayside and never make it to market.
On this topic when I was an academic a few years ago I had one of my undergraduate student project groups go through an entire year of Cancer Research (one of the highest ranked cancer journals) from 10 years previously and have them find out what happened to the work published. Rather depressingly the vast majority went nowhere and when my students contacted the PIs to find out why most of the time it was for totally non-scientific reasons like the group lost funding or someone left.
Re: Cancer ‘vaccine’ eliminates tumors in mice
#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
I see that authors are from Stanford University. Can someone from the US clarify if this will be in public domain/knowledge, or is it possible some drug company will patent this later on?
If some drug company doesn't pick this up it will fall by the wayside and never make it to market. On this topic when I was an academic a few years ago I had one of my undergraduate student project groups go through an entire year of Cancer Research (one of the highest ranked cancer journals) from 10 years previously and have them find out what happened to the work published. Rather depressingly the vast majority wen…
> If some drug company doesn't pick this up it will fall by the wayside and never make it to market.
This isn't mutually exclusive to the treatment being in the public domain.
Re: Cancer ‘vaccine’ eliminates tumors in mice
#35We see similar effects when we irradiate tumors with X-rays, called 'abscopal effect'. Sometimes, when you irradiate a tumor, the unirradiated metastases also shrink. It is hypothesized that the immune response is triggered by the irradiation, and there are currently studies being done that try to stimulate the immune system even more. What I wonder is why this is being discovered only now.
Have you ever seen footage of a white blood cell taking apart a cancer cell? This is worlds closer to unlocking that power than hoping a stray radioactive particle bumps the right lever. Perhaps the need for two separate medicines/agents to make this special cocktail and trigger the perfect immune response has been the elusive part?
Could you link to some footage of a white blood cell taking apart a cancer cell?
Re: Cancer ‘vaccine’ eliminates tumors in mice
#36I hope this will work out for humans as well. Wondering if we can have something for diabetes as well, it seems to be affecting a large portion of the population and growing rapidly.
Re: Cancer ‘vaccine’ eliminates tumors in mice
#37Earlier quoted context omitted.
If some drug company doesn't pick this up it will fall by the wayside and never make it to market. On this topic when I was an academic a few years ago I had one of my undergraduate student project groups go through an entire year of Cancer Research (one of the highest ranked cancer journals) from 10 years previously and have them find out what happened to the work published. Rather depressingly the vast majority wen…
> If some drug company doesn't pick this up it will fall by the wayside and never make it to market. This isn't mutually exclusive to the treatment being in the public domain.
Yea, Polio Vaccine.
Re: Cancer ‘vaccine’ eliminates tumors in mice
#38Earlier quoted context omitted.
Have you ever seen footage of a white blood cell taking apart a cancer cell? This is worlds closer to unlocking that power than hoping a stray radioactive particle bumps the right lever. Perhaps the need for two separate medicines/agents to make this special cocktail and trigger the perfect immune response has been the elusive part?
Could you link to some footage of a white blood cell taking apart a cancer cell?
Re: Cancer ‘vaccine’ eliminates tumors in mice
#39I hope this is not like those vaporware revolutionary battery technologies we see time to time.
Re: Cancer ‘vaccine’ eliminates tumors in mice
#40Earlier quoted context omitted.
If some drug company doesn't pick this up it will fall by the wayside and never make it to market. On this topic when I was an academic a few years ago I had one of my undergraduate student project groups go through an entire year of Cancer Research (one of the highest ranked cancer journals) from 10 years previously and have them find out what happened to the work published. Rather depressingly the vast majority wen…
> If some drug company doesn't pick this up it will fall by the wayside and never make it to market. This isn't mutually exclusive to the treatment being in the public domain.
Drug companies don't pick up treatments that are in the public domain. No patent, no pay.