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Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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Re: Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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To be fair, science thrives on curiosity. I'd prefer we establish something was safe and have at the experiments. So, disbelieve in part by trying to disprove. Win win.

Science is not being advanced by disproving crackpots. It's a waste of precious resource better spent elsewhere.

You'd be surprised. :)

Re: Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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No it isn't. You should default to disbelieving such extraordinary claims.

You should default to having no strong opinion at all.

If that were the norm we'd have much shorter lifespans.

edit: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iatrogenesis

Re: Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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Expecting your brain to operate in a way that produces certain frequencies because your ears are detecting air vibrations with those frequencies sounds extremely homeopathic.

Dismissing it based on nothing more than a feeling, and no data, is just as irrational as homeopaths.

No, the absence of a proper mechanism is akin to homeopathy. Pointing the absence of a proper mechanism sounds like common sense.

Re: Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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Study: Gamma and beta bursts during working memory readout suggest roles in its volitional control Citation: Mikael Lundqvist, Pawel Herman, Melissa R. Warden, Scott L. Brincat & Earl K. Miller. Nature Communications 9, Article number: 394 (2018). Link: https://dx.doi.org/10.1038/s41467-017-02791-8 DOI: 10.1038/s41467-017-02791-8 Abstract: Working memory (WM) activity is not as stationary or sustained as previously t…

Thank you for providing useful, concise, and well-formatted study citations. I'm not in academia as of this year, and it pains me to see this information omitted from posts that would greatly benifit from this. I'll do a better job at including relevant cites in my own submissions.

Re: Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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I wonder how much this can be applied to day to day life. For example, the Binaural app on the iOS app store acts as a wave generator that lets you listen to specific frequencies. I'd be interested to see if you could force yourself into getting beta wave activity in the brain by just listening to beta frequencies -- almost as if to tune yourself manually.

Expecting your brain to operate in a way that produces certain frequencies because your ears are detecting air vibrations with those frequencies sounds extremely homeopathic.

Large amounts of sensory input with a certain rhythm affecting brain firing is known to happen; see seizures. And the idea has a pretty obvious mechanism. So your comparison is not fair at all.

Re: Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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I wonder how much this can be applied to day to day life. For example, the Binaural app on the iOS app store acts as a wave generator that lets you listen to specific frequencies. I'd be interested to see if you could force yourself into getting beta wave activity in the brain by just listening to beta frequencies -- almost as if to tune yourself manually.

Expecting your brain to operate in a way that produces certain frequencies because your ears are detecting air vibrations with those frequencies sounds extremely homeopathic.

Your statement is as lacking in evidence and reasoning as you suppose the one you are attacking is.

Re: Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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Dismissing it based on nothing more than a feeling, and no data, is just as irrational as homeopaths.

No it isn't. You should default to disbelieving such extraordinary claims.

Who is the arbiter of whether something is "extraordinary"? You? Perhaps you should do some cursory investigation on published research before being so quick to judgement.

Re: Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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You should default to having no strong opinion at all.

Skepticism due to insufficient evidence and lack of obvious plausibility isn't usually considered a strong opinion.

There is evidence though.

Re: Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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To be fair, science thrives on curiosity. I'd prefer we establish something was safe and have at the experiments. So, disbelieve in part by trying to disprove. Win win.

Science is not being advanced by disproving crackpots. It's a waste of precious resource better spent elsewhere.

What's your definition of a crackpot? Someone who researches something varjag has a negative emotion towards?

Re: Evidence that the brain’s ability to control thinking relies on beta rhythms

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The proposition "listening to music affects your mood" is very different from the proposition "listening to a certain frequency of tone causes your brain to produce waves at a corresponding frequency."

Sure but who said anything about music? The word music doesn't appear in the original link or in any other comment on this page, or in the link I posted.

Unless you're denying that drummers are musicians, it's my impression that beats are a kind of music.
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