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Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is Ikea a charity?

IIRC the brand is owned and licensed by a Dutch organization – legally a charity – created by the founder for tax avoidance purposes.

Yeah it's some blackhole of companies holding each other i don't even know how to picture how all this works without pen and paper.

[1]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stichting_INGKA_Foundation

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

#62
Holy moly!

Maybe now we can finally have the bug fixed where Thunderbird displays random stuff from the email body in the Inbox tree's From and Date fields (instead of the proper envelope sender and MTA timestamp from the Return-Path and final Received headers).

I hope they hire a full-time Firefox developer next. I'm going to upgrade to Quantum (currently my apt-get is holding Firefox 54) as soon as accidentally hitting CTRL-Q instead of CTRL-W on Linux doesn't activate a magical Linux-only hotkey that blows up the whole Firefox browser and looses all of your web-related work.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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I have to say I think Mozilla is a complete shambles of an organisation. It must be one of the richest charities in the world with the billions of dollars of commission it earns from search from Google et al. I can't actually believe this is something they're excited to post a blog about. Charity with 9 figures revenue is hiring a developer (finally) to work on a product which has 25 million users. I think Mozilla's…

Yes, specially it’s “hourly contract”. Seems a cheap way to do business.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is Ikea a charity?

Minute MBA has a really good explanation of their set-up. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvxRePIv85Y

Great video, that's genius - good job to the lawyers and financial advisors

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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post #42

I have to say I think Mozilla is a complete shambles of an organisation. It must be one of the richest charities in the world with the billions of dollars of commission it earns from search from Google et al. I can't actually believe this is something they're excited to post a blog about. Charity with 9 figures revenue is hiring a developer (finally) to work on a product which has 25 million users. I think Mozilla's…

> It must be one of the richest charities in the world with the billions of dollars of commission it earns from search from Google et al. It's not even in the top 20 of U.S.-based charities: Mozilla’s consolidated reported revenue (Mozilla Foundation, Mozilla Corporation and all subsidiaries) for CY 2016 was $520M (US), as compared to $421M in 2015. [0] The Largest U.S. Charities For 2016[1] 1. United Way Worldwide,…

When I read that comment, I thought "I see where you are coming from, but clearly you are exaggerating". Then you left your comment, which claims to disprove it, but has in fact conclusively demonstrated its truth. Mozilla is apparently competing favorably with the 20th largest charity in the entire US?! Yeah: this is like the American Heart Association saying "we finally have managed to allocate one full-time employee to look into the connection between sugar and heart issues" :/.

You do realize that there are a lot of non-profits, right? I went to a meeting in Santa Barbara that was just people representing various local non-profits (or people who were thinking of starting a non-profit), and the room was packed. I remembered them saying something like "there are almost a thousand non-profits right here in Santa Barbara". I just did a quick search, and found a site saying that there are estimated 400-1000 non-profits in Santa Barbara.

So yes: it is (apparently, as demonstrated by your "rebuttal"), entirely fair to say that Mozilla "is one of the richest charities in the world".

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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post #12

This is good news to hear. I use Thunderbird daily and it's not a pleasant experience.

What makes your experience unpleasant? My pain point is that dragging attachments to folders doesn't work in Linux. It's been an open bug since 2007 and I've lost hope on that. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mozilla-thunderbir...

Everything else works as it should. I'm not using calendars or syncing address books which probably places me in the long tail of the user distribution.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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As much as I think the action is commendable I have my questions about the role of an email client in today's market Maybe they should think about how to make a mobile version of it. Still a mail client is a "solved problem". Most of email's problems are behind the client, not on it (like spam control)

I'm asking this as a legitimate question. If it's a "solved problem", what's the solution?

I'm personally a reluctant Thunderbird user. I use it, I don't mind it all that much, but I can't say it's a delightful experience to use. But it does give me access to my email when I'm offline, and it lets me do GPG for sensitive email.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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I have to say I think Mozilla is a complete shambles of an organisation. It must be one of the richest charities in the world with the billions of dollars of commission it earns from search from Google et al. I can't actually believe this is something they're excited to post a blog about. Charity with 9 figures revenue is hiring a developer (finally) to work on a product which has 25 million users. I think Mozilla's…

You must be fun at parties.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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post #36

I have to say I think Mozilla is a complete shambles of an organisation. It must be one of the richest charities in the world with the billions of dollars of commission it earns from search from Google et al. I can't actually believe this is something they're excited to post a blog about. Charity with 9 figures revenue is hiring a developer (finally) to work on a product which has 25 million users. I think Mozilla's…

I was apprehensive of your comment at first since you start with fierce criticism of Mozilla. But on reflection, I concur that regardless of the high esteem I have for Mozilla generally, it is disconcerting how little attention Thunderbird sees despite its regular use by so many people. I've never agreed with the neglect it has received from Mozilla and, in fact, feel that Mozilla is missing an opportunity to help re…

Especially since most emails worldwide aren’t decentralized since they rely on centralized webmails. As in, Google and fastmail could decide to swipe you and all proofs you’ve ever saved in your emails from the history. Thunderbird is the last way to download emails (...at least in an open format).

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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I have to say I think Mozilla is a complete shambles of an organisation. It must be one of the richest charities in the world with the billions of dollars of commission it earns from search from Google et al. I can't actually believe this is something they're excited to post a blog about. Charity with 9 figures revenue is hiring a developer (finally) to work on a product which has 25 million users. I think Mozilla's…

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