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Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

#21

I wonder if they will oxidize(oxidate? rustify) it...

There need to be a very compelling reason to rewrite 7 million lines of code in a different language. The fact that there were enough of those to rewrite Firefox doesn't mean that it makes sense for other projects.

As I said to the sibling, the nice thing is you don't need to rewrite in rust, you can refactor into it slowly

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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I wonder if they will oxidize(oxidate? rustify) it...

There need to be a very compelling reason to rewrite 7 million lines of code in a different language. The fact that there were enough of those to rewrite Firefox doesn't mean that it makes sense for other projects.

Does that 7 million lines include the browser? I know an email client is a big project but even so that seems a lot.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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post #7

Huh, I was going to post this story, but I thought it was not allowed because it's a job posting and I had to wait until the Who is Hiring thread. So, if posting jobs for working on free applications is ok outside of Who Is Hiring, let me try to advertise this job for another free email client, Mailpile, which got killed when I tried to post it earlier: https://www.mailpile.is/jobs/ I currently use Evolution for emai…

Thunderbird is a popular mail client that has at times had a pretty uncertain future. I imagine that azdle posted this less as a notification of a job listing and more as a sign that Thunderbird is going to stick around and evolve. That's the difference.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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post #7

Huh, I was going to post this story, but I thought it was not allowed because it's a job posting and I had to wait until the Who is Hiring thread. So, if posting jobs for working on free applications is ok outside of Who Is Hiring, let me try to advertise this job for another free email client, Mailpile, which got killed when I tried to post it earlier: https://www.mailpile.is/jobs/ I currently use Evolution for emai…

Thunderbird is a popular mail client that has at times had a pretty uncertain future. I imagine that azdle posted this less as a notification of a job listing and more as a sign that Thunderbird is going to stick around and evolve. That's the difference.

I see. Those things, except for the popularity, also apply to Mailpile. I guess that's the big difference.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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post #7

Huh, I was going to post this story, but I thought it was not allowed because it's a job posting and I had to wait until the Who is Hiring thread. So, if posting jobs for working on free applications is ok outside of Who Is Hiring, let me try to advertise this job for another free email client, Mailpile, which got killed when I tried to post it earlier: https://www.mailpile.is/jobs/ I currently use Evolution for emai…

I think the original article is ok, since it is generally interesting (news about Thunderbird, opens discussion about Thunderbird, Mozilla, their technologies) and not just a job ad.

I don't know of a rule against job ads in general. I would guess generally such would be mostly just not interesting.

YC company job listings are a special case though, they appear on the front page without voting possibility. This had been the case since the beginning of HN.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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I have to say I think Mozilla is a complete shambles of an organisation. It must be one of the richest charities in the world with the billions of dollars of commission it earns from search from Google et al.

I can't actually believe this is something they're excited to post a blog about. Charity with 9 figures revenue is hiring a developer (finally) to work on a product which has 25 million users.

I think Mozilla's mission goals are fantastic but something is going seriously, seriously wrong with the way they allocate resources.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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post #7

Huh, I was going to post this story, but I thought it was not allowed because it's a job posting and I had to wait until the Who is Hiring thread. So, if posting jobs for working on free applications is ok outside of Who Is Hiring, let me try to advertise this job for another free email client, Mailpile, which got killed when I tried to post it earlier: https://www.mailpile.is/jobs/ I currently use Evolution for emai…

I think the original article is ok, since it is generally interesting (news about Thunderbird, opens discussion about Thunderbird, Mozilla, their technologies) and not just a job ad. I don't know of a rule against job ads in general. I would guess generally such would be mostly just not interesting. YC company job listings are a special case though, they appear on the front page without voting possibility. This had b…

Well, the Mailpile job ad also says that they're trying to make it easier to install on Windows and macOS and that they got the funds from the bitcoin fluctuations. It's also not "just" a job ad.

Mailpile is interesting because it's trying to give a convenient frontend for encryption. Maybe if encryption had a better UI, more email would be encrypted.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

#28

I have to say I think Mozilla is a complete shambles of an organisation. It must be one of the richest charities in the world with the billions of dollars of commission it earns from search from Google et al. I can't actually believe this is something they're excited to post a blog about. Charity with 9 figures revenue is hiring a developer (finally) to work on a product which has 25 million users. I think Mozilla's…

richest charities? not even close? look at ikea.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

#29
post #12

This is good news to hear. I use Thunderbird daily and it's not a pleasant experience.

It really needs to have the ability to add arbitrary numbers of physical addresses, email addresses, and phone numbers to a contact in the address book, as well as give each field an arbitrary name. Every other address book on the planet allows this. The fact that it can't makes it unusable for me.

It would also be nice to have a proper three vertical pane view. The way it currently works is horrendous.

Re: Mozilla Is Hiring a Developer to Work on Thunderbird Full-Time

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post #8

The most important thing here is that there's now a serious plan in place to move Thunderbird off of XUL and XPCOM. If Thunderbird builds can happen without incurring the expense of building Gecko (and there's no reason that shouldn't be the ultimate goal), then community contributions in the form of code changes would likely increase several times over.

I have fond memories of XPCOM and XUL... Back in 04 we had a desktop application mostly a collection of C++ bindings to the Firebird database and for silly reasons I started the GUI with Gtk+ but as we continued to struggle with porting to Win32 (like we sell this to people in Win32 not Linux) and I started to find a need to embed web content (cause like we should have written the whole thing as a web app - native ap…

> and IMO HTML is light years ahead for UI

LOL. Last time I checked you still couldn't make an image fill the available space while keeping its aspect ratio :D

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