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Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Many of us old enough remember that cameras were often banned from venues, even non professional ones. It wasn't until camera enabled phones became popular that this rule was dropped. I have no idea why someone would want to watch a performance from behind a screen.

Why do people drop buttloads of money getting to the Grand Canyon and then spend their time behind a viewfinder taking landscape pictures that are infinitely worse than you'll find online or purchased from pros, ensuring they spend less (and sometimes no), time enjoying the scenery and environment?

Specific weather/sky conditions? I'm not sure why I want my own photos, maybe it just helps me remember the moment of snapping it.

I know for sure that a pro photo of the same location wouldn't be the same. Maybe it has something to do with my visual/spacial memory.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Is that really necessary? Our parents didn't have that luxury, and we turned out fine...

> Our parents didn't have that luxury Yes, they did; before ubiquitous cellphones killed demand for them, basically every public place of any size (and many small ones, and even just public streets ) had banks of payphones, and for many kinds of outings people would leave the phone number of the restaurant or other establishment that they were going to for emergency contact in the other direction. The last generation…

People really didn't go to a phonebox to phone the babysitter, though.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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needs to call you to escape a dangerous situation Can you describe a scenario for me? Because I'm having a very hard time imagining one where the teenager is immediate peril (otherwise they could just unlock the phone in the next room) yet the best person to help them is not in the building. Maybe it's unfair, but it just sounds like helicopter parenting to me.

Let's imagine that my child is at a party or other social engagement and they want deniable reason to escape. [0] There may be excessive peer pressure, illegal activity, or any other pre-arranged reason they may need to bail on something without incurring the loss of face that could be socially devastating. If I have my phone, they can text me with some pre-arranged message ("x"), and I will feign an emergency and ge…

I don't get the perspective of people who want to have kids and ask the world to accommodate them so that they don't have to make any sacrifices along the way.

Going to an event where you won't have access to your phone is maybe something you can't do while having kids of a certain age. But they'll grow up and then you can again.

It's kind of selfish to ask that no musician have this policy because you want to be able to attend any concert you wish while having young children.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Checking phones is part of the human experience.

Compulsive, addiction driven behaviour due to the gamification of apps and basic services? I say let's remove that from our experience.

You're free to make your own choices, but not to inflect them on others.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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That's great for them. But I won't be buying a ticket for any of his shows. After seeing what happened at the bataclan that makes this a stupid and dangerous idea.

how exactly would having your cell phone handy prevent another bataclan?

it would primarily be helpful for cross-checking (dont kill me) "fake news" stories against.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Many of us old enough remember that cameras were often banned from venues, even non professional ones. It wasn't until camera enabled phones became popular that this rule was dropped. I have no idea why someone would want to watch a performance from behind a screen.

Why do people drop buttloads of money getting to the Grand Canyon and then spend their time behind a viewfinder taking landscape pictures that are infinitely worse than you'll find online or purchased from pros, ensuring they spend less (and sometimes no), time enjoying the scenery and environment?

I don't think still photos are the problem, it's when people take photos or videos of something and miss a moment.

An example is at a football game where the a team is imminently going to score. Up come the phones. Especially if the game is being shown on TV and you can watch the highlight over and over and over, why not just enjoy the moment? Same with concerts, just enjoy the music and show, your video is completely worthless to even yourself.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

I agree, the safety aspects of this are shocking and the 'be free of phones' puritanism is a bit dull. A _very_ strict code of conduct for attendees is something that can (and does) work. Jazz pianist, Keith Jarrett has been known to stop his 4-hour long improvisation sessions in some of the world's most prestigous venues mid-flow to dress down an attendee trying to film him. People don't make that mistake twice. htt…

I don't think Jarrett is generally considered the voice of reason. In fact, some promoters have gotten so tired of his histrionics that they've ruled out ever booking him again.

And before it was cell phones, he berated people for coughing.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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I think his statement "If they can’t give me that energy back? Maybe I’m wasting my time." is thoughtful. Jack is old enough to have gone to and performed shows in his youth where cells phone were rare if there were any. He performs not only for the music but for the energy of the crowd. A crowd that's now placed a screen between themselves and the performer taking away that energy or removing that sense of connectio…

Many of us old enough remember that cameras were often banned from venues, even non professional ones. It wasn't until camera enabled phones became popular that this rule was dropped. I have no idea why someone would want to watch a performance from behind a screen.

The other reason it was dropped is that having "organic" social media sharing became the norm.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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It's interesting they didn't have confidence in the babysitter's ability to take care of you for an evening but still chose to hire them and then monitored them via payphone. Most times when babysitters are hired, now or a generation ago, they're trusted to make reasonable decisions so the parents don't have to worry.

> It's interesting they didn't have confidence in the babysitter's ability to take care of you for an evening but still chose to hire them and then monitored them via payphone. No one questioned the babysitter's competence. They're your children -- you're going to want to call and check to see how things are going.

Uhm, yes you are, and pretty clearly at that.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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He says signing into an electric microphone while playing an electric or acoustic-electric guitar and standing on a stage in front of the crowd with the sound projected from speakers. Yes, I'm being facetious, but if he REALLY wants a 100% human experience, shrink the room, go full acoustic and play only to small crowds and encourage interaction rather than observation. I actually love sets like that with artists, es…

If you think people wouldn't have their phones out in that intimate, acoustic setting you're fooling yourself.
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