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Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by pythonaut_16 »

Posibyte wrote: post #21
k1ns wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but would this not be a massive security concern? No calls in or out in the case of an emergency seems pretty frightening to me.

While I wholeheartedly agree, the devil's advocate within me likes to remind that we had been mobile phone-less for years with no major concern.

We were without antibiotics for hundreds of years but no one's suggesting we go back to that.

We were without mandatory seat belts for decades but no one's suggesting we go back to that.

I just don't find the argument that there was a time where we did without something as a compelling counter argument to the perceived utility something serves today.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by __s »

kakarot wrote: post #227
foolfoolz wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i think the whole point is not being able to check your phone adds to the human experience

What is the "human experience"?

In this context, the collective experience of the concert, engaging with it as your immediate world, cutting off the outside as would a cult, this is the cult of music, let it consume you as you consume it

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by booleandilemma »

davb wrote: post #87

I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

I wonder if, some number of years in the future, when 95% of humans have neural implants that let them connect to the Internet and send telepathic messages to their friends and babysitter, there will be people too afraid to turn them off for the duration of a music concert, because of a possible terrorist attack or a fire?

They’ll probably shake their heads and wonder how people ever got along without neural implants.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by lobf »

foolfoolz wrote: post #210
davb wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn’t say that I must check my phone every time I go to the toilet. Only that being able to check my phone (for example, to check if I have any messages from people I care for at home) is a useful thing. And I never said that I was worried about terrorism. Only that having ready access to my phone in any emergency situation (again, I pointed out it would be more likely a fire alarm than a terrorists) is helpful. I…

i think the whole point is not being able to check your phone adds to the human experience

Being available for work is part of my "human experience."

edit- I really don't understand why this is downvote worthy...

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by Pyxl101 »

ken wrote: post #189
davb wrote: post #87

I experienced the Yondr phone prison last night for the first time (at a Chris Rock show). While I detest people being disruptive with their phones, I don’t think this is the right solution. From a practical standpoint, it took a lot longer to get into and out of the venue when phones had to be locked up. Checking your phone when you pop out to the toilet meant waiting in a queue to have your phone unlocked, and bein…

I think the viscerality of this response is fascinating. Putting your phone in a case is a "prison", and you must check it every time you go to the toilet, and you're concerned about a terrorist attack -- enough to want your phone, but not enough to stay home, as if your apps could somehow save you. > Treat people like adults. If they break the rules, ask them to leave. Isn't that what we've been trying for the past…

Taking your phone out at a concern is not misbehaving. It's fine and accepted.

What OP is proposing is to make phones prohibited at a concert. Then it will be misbehaving, and you can eject people who are breaking the rule. I think this would be a fine idea.

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by ManuelKiessling »

CUViper wrote: post #246
foolfoolz wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i think the whole point is not being able to check your phone adds to the human experience

Part of my human experience may include checking how the babysitter is doing with the kids. I'm not going to do that in a way that disrupts the show, but I still want that access.

How did people do that before there were cell phones?

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by cpcarey »

wlesieutre wrote: post #38
INTPenis wrote: post #23

A suggestion. If entertainers ban phones at events they should at least record the event themselves and publish the video for the participants or everyone. I noticed at the Mark Twain wards for David Letterman when my hero Bill fucking Murray came out a woman was literally watching him through her phone. And I was watching the whole thing on youtube at a much better angle and quality. Of course my video was probably…

I went to a show a couple years ago that politely asked you to put your phones away and said they would put a video up from one of the shows on the tour. Unfortunately the video never happened, as far as I can tell. It's a nice idea. Funnily enough, the only reason I went to that show was having watched their previous acoustic tour on YouTube. The quality obviously blows a phone recording out of the water, I wish mor…

I'm also hoping the A&B Acoustic II video is similar to the Acoustic I video; the first Acoustic concert video also drew me to go in person.

Side note, Lane 8 experimented with phone-less concerts that went well enough that he does that for his tours now, even naming his new record label "This Never Happened". My friends and I joke that it started with a Mixmag set where a crowd member in the front kept recording video and flash photos, whereas Lane 8 is usually very much enveloped in the music he's playing (https://youtu.be/sWa7GdYiYUQ?t=15m2s).

I've enjoyed his phone-less concerts a lot - it's just tape over the camera, so you can send/receive a quick message if needed, and step off to the back or side if you need to use it longer.

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Post by dblohm7 »

CUViper wrote: post #246
foolfoolz wrote: post #210

Earlier quoted context omitted.

i think the whole point is not being able to check your phone adds to the human experience

Part of my human experience may include checking how the babysitter is doing with the kids. I'm not going to do that in a way that disrupts the show, but I still want that access.

Is that really necessary? Our parents didn't have that luxury, and we turned out fine...

Re: Jack White bans phones at gigs for “100% human experience”

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Post by BHSPitMonkey »

gknoy wrote: post #268
icebraining wrote: post #234

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needs to call you to escape a dangerous situation Can you describe a scenario for me? Because I'm having a very hard time imagining one where the teenager is immediate peril (otherwise they could just unlock the phone in the next room) yet the best person to help them is not in the building. Maybe it's unfair, but it just sounds like helicopter parenting to me.

Let's imagine that my child is at a party or other social engagement and they want deniable reason to escape. [0] There may be excessive peer pressure, illegal activity, or any other pre-arranged reason they may need to bail on something without incurring the loss of face that could be socially devastating. If I have my phone, they can text me with some pre-arranged message ("x"), and I will feign an emergency and ge…

So, during those times when you're "on call" and need to be responsive to such events, you have to make the decision not to go on camping trips or flights or no-phone events like this one. Right?
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