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Surviving 75 hours alone in the ocean

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Re: Surviving 75 hours alone in the ocean

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Why do people attempt suicide after this sort of ordeal? Is there any reasoning or studies that talk about this?

Most of the suicides are committed when a person starts believing suicide is the only way out. When a person has lost all reasons to live, and when he thinks there is nothing he can do, then he concludes suicide could be the only next natural act under his control.

We need to talk about it more, and our government social safety net needs to be mended yeasterday. (It looks like it's going to get worse in the next three years, which is a travesty.)

There are times when I think about my death.

I sometimes think my suicide will be the next big life event. A event, if I had more financial resources, might be less painful, or anxiety producing?

I've been seeing a Psychiatrist for years.

From what I gather, from years of sitting eight feet from the man, suicide has two reasons; the chemical one, and even though it's debated, I can tell he still knows their are physical shifts in brain chemicals that cause depression. Although, he's not the cheerleader for SSRI's, and the older tricyclics he used to be; I don't think he's throwing the baby out with the cliche. I truly believe he feels they work in some patients.

And then there's the situationl one. I'm more in the sisuational camp most days. Life without enough funds is just difficult. Along--with taking care of a loved one who seems oblivious to how bad things could get.

My hope is society/government makes some changes to the latter(welfare--yes the sware word in some circles of privilege, and denial.) Right now we need places that people can camp/shit/wash-up without getting booked into a county jail. The Therapy can wait. We need places for the Homeless, and those on the brink of loosing everything.

When you blow a gasket, and don't have the understanding family; it's just so difficult out there. I doesn't need to be--in such a priveleged society? They might not have wonder drugs, but they can at least price the basics for the needy?

Society is looking for someone to blame for The Opioid Crisis. What if the problem wasen't do to careless script writing, but just depression? Depression brought on by the stress of living in this great/modern selfish economy?

Re: Surviving 75 hours alone in the ocean

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An Australian on a surf trip a few years ago fell off a boat in the Mentawais and survived 27 hours with no flotation help.

75 hours in cold water is crazy, but the diver didn't have to keep himself afloat. I find it almost unbelievable that it's possible to swim and tread water -- even in warm salt water -- for 27 hours.

https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/alone-lost-overb...

https://stabmag.com/news/missing-south-african-surfer-found-...

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An Australian on a surf trip a few years ago fell off a boat in the Mentawais and survived 27 hours with no flotation help. 75 hours in cold water is crazy, but the diver didn't have to keep himself afloat. I find it almost unbelievable that it's possible to swim and tread water -- even in warm salt water -- for 27 hours. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/alone-lost-overb... https://stabmag.com/news/missing…

Salt water is buoyant. If you know how to float, it doesn’t take much energy.

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An Australian on a surf trip a few years ago fell off a boat in the Mentawais and survived 27 hours with no flotation help. 75 hours in cold water is crazy, but the diver didn't have to keep himself afloat. I find it almost unbelievable that it's possible to swim and tread water -- even in warm salt water -- for 27 hours. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/alone-lost-overb... https://stabmag.com/news/missing…

Salt water is buoyant. If you know how to float, it doesn’t take much energy.

It does depend on your body composition. The largest energy drain on a person stagnant in water is their body working to keep them warm, and then breathing (lungs have to expand, muscles have to contract, water has to be displaced).

Lying flat, arms out reduces the work needed to stay afloat - but will drain your core temperature faster (although after 27 hours it doesn't really matter, you'll shiver your way to stay warm "enough" or hypothermia will set in).

I can't find the study I read after that movie came out a few years ago on this exact scenario. Will reply or edit my post if I can find it.

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An Australian on a surf trip a few years ago fell off a boat in the Mentawais and survived 27 hours with no flotation help. 75 hours in cold water is crazy, but the diver didn't have to keep himself afloat. I find it almost unbelievable that it's possible to swim and tread water -- even in warm salt water -- for 27 hours. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/alone-lost-overb... https://stabmag.com/news/missing…

Salt water is buoyant. If you know how to float, it doesn’t take much energy.

Maybe even more amazing is that Courtney Dauwalter ran the Moab 240 ultra marathon (240 miles) non-stop in 2.5 days.

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An Australian on a surf trip a few years ago fell off a boat in the Mentawais and survived 27 hours with no flotation help. 75 hours in cold water is crazy, but the diver didn't have to keep himself afloat. I find it almost unbelievable that it's possible to swim and tread water -- even in warm salt water -- for 27 hours. https://news.nationalgeographic.com/2017/12/alone-lost-overb... https://stabmag.com/news/missing…

Salt water is buoyant. If you know how to float, it doesn’t take much energy.

Have you ever tried that in the open ocean? It's quite different from a pool, or a river.

-Spent over 120 days in the open ocean aboard a 25ft boat.

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Salt water is buoyant. If you know how to float, it doesn’t take much energy.

Have you ever tried that in the open ocean? It's quite different from a pool, or a river. -Spent over 120 days in the open ocean aboard a 25ft boat.

> Have you ever tried that in the open ocean? It's quite different from a pool, or a river.

-Spent over 120 days in the open ocean aboard a 25ft boat.

I have. I find it distinctively easier than pools, lakes and rivers. The commenter is right, it doesn’t take much energy, comparatively speaking.

- Just a guy who has floated on water.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Salt water is buoyant. If you know how to float, it doesn’t take much energy.

Maybe even more amazing is that Courtney Dauwalter ran the Moab 240 ultra marathon (240 miles) non-stop in 2.5 days.

Non-stop in the sense that there aren't any staged pauses, but she undoubtedly stopped to sleep at some point. What really blew my mind is that she finished 10 hours ahead of the next competitor.
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