Firefox 58 • Hacker News Board

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by srcmap » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:42 PM UTC

mikko-apo wrote: post #132

adpirz wrote: post #52

FF 57 was much snappier on my Mac than on Chrome, but it occasionally turned into a CPU hog and got the fans spinning full blast. Did anyone else experience that?

Only time when I noticed my fans revving up was when I went to a site that tried to mine some bitcoins. Closing the tab reduced the cpu usage to normal levels.

FF should put up a "red flaming" icon on the tab with high CPU usage - similar to audio icon on the tab with audio output.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by joethebob » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:48 PM UTC

I'm getting some unbearably slow startup times on a new window. Even a fresh uncustomized profile is moderately slow to start.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by thinkingemote » Tue, Jan 23, 2018, 11:50 PM UTC

dschep wrote: post #101

potch wrote: post #8

I wrote up a more detailed look at some of what's in Firefox 58: https://hacks.mozilla.org/2018/01/firefox-58-the-quantum-era...

Not in any notes: they removed the Android widget. Coincidentally, so did DuckDuckGo today. :(

What is the "android widget"?

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by remir » Wed, Jan 24, 2018, 12:55 AM UTC

mverwijs wrote: post #159

Chirael wrote: post #47

I love Firefox and switched back from Chrome with FF 57, but I really wish they had a Task Manager like Chrome does, so I can spot and kill misbehaving tabs rather than have all my tabs seem to steadily slow down. It's the only feature I miss from Chrome, and hope it appears in FF soon.

Adding the addon 'The Great Suspender' helped me out in this area. Also disabling HTML5 autoplay.

HTML auto-play is absolutely infuriating. On desktop, I landed on some CNET article the other day and suddenly a video start playing (super loud, too). Why does CNET assume I want to watch this?

I don't know if there's an option somewhere in FF or Chrome to block this nonsense but I really hope that feature is implemented some day.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by gsnedders » Wed, Jan 24, 2018, 1:51 AM UTC

robin_reala wrote: post #150

what_ever wrote: post #139

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Allo web has been available on browsers other than Chrome for a while - http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/03/allo-web-adds-suppor... This gives a good reason why Google Earth is only on Chrome - https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/66ao68/new_version_o... Disclaimer: I work at Google but not any of the related teams. I was curious myself about these so I Googled and came across the above two articles so these o…

Any chance you could poke the Hangouts team to get that working in Firefox? At this point they’ve have 28 months public notice that Mozilla would be deprecating NPAPI.

Hangouts works in Firefox Nightly now.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by gsnedders » Wed, Jan 24, 2018, 1:53 AM UTC

kbenson wrote: post #129

lod723 wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Safari's JS engine is different than Chrome's though, no?

Yes, although I'm not sure (and can't find god info on) whether they started from a similar lineage, or even if they just happen to just share some similarities that Mozilla's doesn't. If SquirrelFish (which became Nitro) happened to start with a similar architectural base, that could predispose them to make similar choices over time (e.g. if arrays are extremely efficient because the underlying types are well implem…

V8 and JavaScriptCore were written entirely independently; there was little influence between the two. V8 started as an empty codebase, not a fork of JSC.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by f4rker » Wed, Jan 24, 2018, 2:38 AM UTC

>"Copy and paste screenshots directly to your clipboard"

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Re: Firefox 58

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Post by superdaniel » Wed, Jan 24, 2018, 4:09 AM UTC

Yizahi wrote: post #17

Any updates on U2F support with major sites? Google, FB etc.?

Unfortunately, doesn't work with Google yet... It does work with Dropbox and Github though.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by mmwelt » Wed, Jan 24, 2018, 4:24 AM UTC

The Android version also has several important improvements, a major one being better bookmark management (finally!).

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/android/58.0/releaseno...

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by nirv » Wed, Jan 24, 2018, 5:25 AM UTC

scrollaway wrote: post #102

k__ wrote: post #7

Switched back to Firefox a few months ago and I'm blown away by the speed. Last time I had this feeling after switching to Chrome from Firefox years ago, haha. Besides videos everything works like a charm. Somehow some videos won't start and sometimes I get a message that the video format could not be read, never had this issue in Chrome.

I also switched back to firefox a few weeks ago and I'm not impressed. * Performance is really not that good. I especially have issue on Google sites (Docs and Drive). * Scroll-wheel to switch between tabs is gone. * No multi-tab management (shift/ctrl+click to select and move multiple tabs) like Chrome has * Firefox's UI on Android is utter garbage, so I haven't been able to switch there which defeats the point of h…

What's wrong with the Firefox on Android? Recent version is minimalistic in terms of design, while works the same way as desktop FF in terms of UX. I've never had any issues, plus "Firefox Sync", "Send Tab to Device..." and Pocket Reader integration—are really great features.

As for desktop version, multiselect/moving tabs is convenient on Chrome, but vertical tabs/bookmarks/history/synced devices available in Firefox is much, much better.