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Re: Firefox 58

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Post by bpicolo »

tdumitrescu wrote: post #22
k__ wrote: post #7

Switched back to Firefox a few months ago and I'm blown away by the speed. Last time I had this feeling after switching to Chrome from Firefox years ago, haha. Besides videos everything works like a charm. Somehow some videos won't start and sometimes I get a message that the video format could not be read, never had this issue in Chrome.

Yeah, the browser has gotten snappier. But then I pop open the dev tools and they're unbearably slow - like I simply can't do real dev work in FF anymore, have to use Chrome. It may be that I tend to do a lot of development with Web Components, which FF still doesn't have natively (though Custom Elements are live in 59/nightly, right?!), but either way it seems like a failing of the tooling that it beachballs for 5-1…

I experienced the same trying to switch recently. The devtools are the only blocker from me switching to firefox - they're much worse than they used to be performance-wise

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by mikko-apo »

adpirz wrote: post #52

FF 57 was much snappier on my Mac than on Chrome, but it occasionally turned into a CPU hog and got the fans spinning full blast. Did anyone else experience that?

Only time when I noticed my fans revving up was when I went to a site that tried to mine some bitcoins.

Closing the tab reduced the cpu usage to normal levels.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by darkstar999 »

I switched over to Firefox at work because large diff pages in VSTS (Microsoft's "github") scrolled unbearably slow and choppy in Chrome, but scroll perfectly in Firefox. It's been great.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by tzs »

Someone1234 wrote: post #56

I've been happily using Firefox since 57 shipped. Loving the overall experience. I feel a bit petty for bringing this up, but what is up with Firefox's spellchecker? I came from Chrome so the spellcheck had a web-service which kept the word list current (slang and technical terms), but even ignoring that the Firefox spellcheck doesn't do a good job with the "basics." For example "That" misspelt as "Taht" (a & h trans…

Its out of the box spell checking is just terrible, at least on OS X compared to Chrome and Safari.

Your example doesn't bother me too much, because at least it is right that the word is not spelled correctly. It is just not being great at suggesting replacements (although on my Mac it omits "Tait" and does suggest "That" at the end of the list, and if the misspelled word was "taht" rather than "Taht" then "that" is the first suggestion).

What bothers me is that it frequently flags word as misspelled that are in fact correctly spelled.

I'm using whatever dictionary is configured out of the box. There is an "add dictionary" option in the Languages sub-menu on the right-click pop-up in text areas, but I haven't yet gotten around to exploring that.

The good news is that this is really the only beef I have with Firefox for ordinary use.

Chrome still wins for a lot of development work, though, because of its multiple people feature. I can set up one person for each project, and easily switch between them, with each person having their own set of bookmarks, history, cache, cookies, and so on.

Firefox can do that with multiple profiles, but if you want to use two profiles at once you have to launch two copies of the browser. That can then lead to confusion when other programs try to open a URL, either failing to open or opening in the wrong instance of Firefox.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by vthriller »

scrollaway wrote: post #102
k__ wrote: post #7

Switched back to Firefox a few months ago and I'm blown away by the speed. Last time I had this feeling after switching to Chrome from Firefox years ago, haha. Besides videos everything works like a charm. Somehow some videos won't start and sometimes I get a message that the video format could not be read, never had this issue in Chrome.

I also switched back to firefox a few weeks ago and I'm not impressed. * Performance is really not that good. I especially have issue on Google sites (Docs and Drive). * Scroll-wheel to switch between tabs is gone. * No multi-tab management (shift/ctrl+click to select and move multiple tabs) like Chrome has * Firefox's UI on Android is utter garbage, so I haven't been able to switch there which defeats the point of h…

> Scroll-wheel to switch between tabs is gone.

But I can scroll through list of clickable and readable tabs if they don't fit the screen all at once, unlike in Chrome where you get lots of unusable hair-thin controls instead.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by VyseofArcadia »

dao- wrote: post #14
djhworld wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Rendering graphics for Windows users by using Off-Main-Thread Painting (OMTP) Does this mean OSX and Linux users are not using this method?

Not yet. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1432531 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1430793

Is Linux in this case short for generic *nix + X?

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by tzs »

adpirz wrote: post #52

FF 57 was much snappier on my Mac than on Chrome, but it occasionally turned into a CPU hog and got the fans spinning full blast. Did anyone else experience that?

I've occasionally seen something named "FirefoxCP Web Content" taking 90+% of a core, mostly on Reddit.

Most of the time when it happens on Reddit it stops if I turn on uBlock Origin and refresh the page. Sometimes, though, it still happens even after that.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by what_ever »

kuschku wrote: post #122
hutzlibu wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any proof of that claim? (that it is intentional from google and not just a ff issue?)

Google didn't even make Inbox available on Firefox for months because they didn't care, and when they did, they ended up serving entirely different HTML and JS to FF. This is the same Google that is still keeping Allo Web and Google Earth a Chrome exclusive, the same one that has paid adware vendors to sneakily install Chrome, etc. Sure, you can believe that this is jist a coincidence. But that's one unlucky streak o…

Allo web has been available on browsers other than Chrome for a while - http://www.androidpolice.com/2017/10/03/allo-web-adds-suppor...

This gives a good reason why Google Earth is only on Chrome - https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/66ao68/new_version_o...

Disclaimer: I work at Google but not any of the related teams. I was curious myself about these so I Googled and came across the above two articles so these opinions are of my own.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by StudentStuff »

falcolas wrote: post #117
peterwwillis wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That speed comes at the cost of delaying or breaking existing sites, fwiw

IMHO, if the broken sites are broken because of their "need" to download trackers, intrusive ads, and any number of other dark-pattern based tools... we're better of with those sites broken.

Do these trackers actually add direct value for users? 99% don't, things like the Facebook like button and so forth shouldn't require I hit Facebook's server when loading the page initially.
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