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Re: Firefox 58

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Post by vezycash »

coconutoctopus wrote: post #39

Don't know why people are saying Firefox is fast, Speedometer 2.0 shows a score of 47 where Chrome is 67 on my MBP. And on my PC, Chrome gets 76 whereas Firefox gets 64.

User experience is what we are all excited about. A speedy benchmark means absolutely nothing if it FEELS slow when I'm using it.

Besides, there are some things benchmarks don't check. Examples:

Chrome startup takes at least 3 on my machine. It's does heavy disk activity during this period. Firefox on the other hand takes at most 30 seconds.

Ram usage is also way higher on chrome than Firefox.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by gopalv »

tomsmeding wrote: post #67
bonsai80 wrote: post #58

I've gotten into a habit of checking into all the performance boosts on Firefox release, but I almost missed the best feature of the release: Tracking Protection! It's buried under Preferences -> Privacy & Security -> Tracking Protection I've been using Privacy Badger for a while and today installed DDG's new Privacy Essentials. Does anyone know how the new Firefox feature compares to these other 2 options regarding…

How is "tracking protection", as nice as it may be, a "performance boost"?

This is not the "Do Not Track", this is a block list from disconnect.me.

If someone used a single pixel beacon, only mined referrers, that wouldn't be the case, but the additional javascript does cause performance issues.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by k__ »

Yizahi wrote: post #20
k__ wrote: post #7

Switched back to Firefox a few months ago and I'm blown away by the speed. Last time I had this feeling after switching to Chrome from Firefox years ago, haha. Besides videos everything works like a charm. Somehow some videos won't start and sometimes I get a message that the video format could not be read, never had this issue in Chrome.

It was never that slow as some people declare it to be.

I don't really know.

I just installed Chrome besides Firefox back in the days and it was much snappier. This became my new baseline.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by hutzlibu »

albertgoeswoof wrote: post #34
jherdman wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Likewise, but I've found the performance on a few key websites to be awful. Namely Facebook, and often Google Inbox. Another consequence of switching has been difficulty in using things like my Apple TV or Chromecast (e.g. casting a video to my TV), or using my Mac's media keys to control Google Play Music.

Google inbox is terrible on ff, this is vendor lock-in by google, the new MS

Any proof of that claim? (that it is intentional from google and not just a ff issue?)

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by ac29 »

anderspitman wrote: post #32

Anyone running Quantum on Linux with a 4k monitor? I switched from Chrome for a couple months but the lag/jank/choppiness (especially when scrolling) finally drove me back to Chrome. Still loving the new FF on my HD screens though.

If you aren't setting layers.acceleration.force-enabled to true in about:config, Linux GFX performance is pretty bad. Its a night and day difference for me, and I haven't personally had any issues with it (I use relatively up to date kernels and Mesa on a variety of Intel GPUs, YMMV).

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by blinkingled »

readams wrote: post #66
blinkingled wrote: post #40

Since release 57 I have almost exclusively started using Firefox on Android. I know most quantum enhancements aren't yet in the Android version but something improved leaps and bounds at 57. The ability to use sync and various privacy enhancing extensions mean FF has a great appeal on Android. Now only if they can fix the remaining URL load delays and improve video playback compatibility it'll be a great experience.

Run ublock on FF android and it'll more than make up for the slower browser by avoiding downloading all the ads. When the quantum enhancements land Chrome will be way behind.

Yep, already run uBlock Origin and Cookie AutoDelete. The problem has always been there with or without the extensions. But on faster devices it's not that much of an annoyance anymore.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by AtticusTheGreat »

blinkingled wrote: post #40

Since release 57 I have almost exclusively started using Firefox on Android. I know most quantum enhancements aren't yet in the Android version but something improved leaps and bounds at 57. The ability to use sync and various privacy enhancing extensions mean FF has a great appeal on Android. Now only if they can fix the remaining URL load delays and improve video playback compatibility it'll be a great experience.

I did try Firefox 57 on my Android phone and found the scrolling to be unpleasant with lots of artifacts and stuttering. It's still a much better experience with the mobile version of Chrome.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by vezycash »

About Updates

Anyone appreciates how Firefox gives us choice? Unlike Chrome where I have to resort to hacks to stop the damned thing from downloading a fresh version whenever it feels like?

BTW: Does chrome keep to the promise of patch or diff updates instead of 100MB+ downloads for every release?

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by JohnBooty »

Viper007Bond wrote: post #63
JohnTHaller wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not necessarily. Developer is the beta channel, after all, so many of us use Firefox stable as our primary. I use my various PortableApps.com packages to run separate channels without impacting each other for testing sites.

I use Developer as my only browser. Never had any issues. It's not a buggy alpha version or something.

Even FF Nightly works perfectly well as a day to day browser for me. And I use it all day every day.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by JepZ »

> On Firefox for Android, we’ve added support for Progressive Web Apps (PWAs) so you can add websites to your home screen and use them like native apps.

Very cool, that was the largest issue for me lately. So maybe my phone doesn't even need Chrome anymore :-)

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