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Re: Firefox 58

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Post by asudghionbio »

eropple wrote: post #24
Yizahi wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It was never that slow as some people declare it to be.

Yeah, it positively was , and it would lock the browser up with misbehaving tabs. I managed to use Fx50 (or so, I forget the exact release) for about a day before going "nope, back to Chrome, it might chew batteries like crazy but at least it's fast." Firefox has significantly improved and deserves praise for it. Rewriting history to always be at war with Eastchromea is unnecessary.

"It doesn't work on my machine" is a new one.

The benchmarks have always been respectable. I'm sure there are some configurations that made it work poorly, and that's a problem. That isn't true in general.

Re: Firefox 58

#32

Post by anderspitman »

Anyone running Quantum on Linux with a 4k monitor? I switched from Chrome for a couple months but the lag/jank/choppiness (especially when scrolling) finally drove me back to Chrome. Still loving the new FF on my HD screens though.

Re: Firefox 58

#33

Post by sebazzz »

k__ wrote: post #7

Switched back to Firefox a few months ago and I'm blown away by the speed. Last time I had this feeling after switching to Chrome from Firefox years ago, haha. Besides videos everything works like a charm. Somehow some videos won't start and sometimes I get a message that the video format could not be read, never had this issue in Chrome.

I wonder how Firefox compares to Edge on a tablet like a Surface Pro. I really like the gestures and general touch and touchpad support in Edge and Edge should be quite efficient on battery life as long as you stay away from monsters like Facebook.

Re: Firefox 58

#34

Post by albertgoeswoof »

jherdman wrote: post #9
k__ wrote: post #7

Switched back to Firefox a few months ago and I'm blown away by the speed. Last time I had this feeling after switching to Chrome from Firefox years ago, haha. Besides videos everything works like a charm. Somehow some videos won't start and sometimes I get a message that the video format could not be read, never had this issue in Chrome.

Likewise, but I've found the performance on a few key websites to be awful. Namely Facebook, and often Google Inbox. Another consequence of switching has been difficulty in using things like my Apple TV or Chromecast (e.g. casting a video to my TV), or using my Mac's media keys to control Google Play Music.

Google inbox is terrible on ff, this is vendor lock-in by google, the new MS

Re: Firefox 58

#35

Post by eropple »

asudghionbio wrote: post #31
eropple wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it positively was , and it would lock the browser up with misbehaving tabs. I managed to use Fx50 (or so, I forget the exact release) for about a day before going "nope, back to Chrome, it might chew batteries like crazy but at least it's fast." Firefox has significantly improved and deserves praise for it. Rewriting history to always be at war with Eastchromea is unnecessary.

"It doesn't work on my machine" is a new one. The benchmarks have always been respectable. I'm sure there are some configurations that made it work poorly, and that's a problem. That isn't true in general.

Benchmarks aren't user experience and never have been. It doesn't matter how fast you render if you feel slow. And, for me, Firefox has felt slow on any hardware I've tried it on for more of its existence than it has not. And it is the only browser I have used in the last decade that hard-locked when a tab got crunchy.

Re: Firefox 58

#36

Post by lucb1e »

I see no updates on APIs for missing add-ons. Looks like I'm going to have to stay with Firefox 55 a little longer to even be able to use Mozilla's own Tab Center add-on.

Re: Firefox 58

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Post by JonLim »

tdumitrescu wrote: post #22
k__ wrote: post #7

Switched back to Firefox a few months ago and I'm blown away by the speed. Last time I had this feeling after switching to Chrome from Firefox years ago, haha. Besides videos everything works like a charm. Somehow some videos won't start and sometimes I get a message that the video format could not be read, never had this issue in Chrome.

Yeah, the browser has gotten snappier. But then I pop open the dev tools and they're unbearably slow - like I simply can't do real dev work in FF anymore, have to use Chrome. It may be that I tend to do a lot of development with Web Components, which FF still doesn't have natively (though Custom Elements are live in 59/nightly, right?!), but either way it seems like a failing of the tooling that it beachballs for 5-1…

> But then I pop open the dev tools and they're unbearably slow - like I simply can't do real dev work in FF anymore, have to use Chrome.

+1

I've had to sit patiently waiting for sourcemaps to load or finally hit breakpoints in FF, I usually try to test changes in Chrome and hope that they work well in FF. Minor inspector usage for CSS styling and what not.

(It's still my primary browser at work, though.)

Re: Firefox 58

#38

Post by lucb1e »

Paul_S wrote: post #25
andrepd wrote: post #13

Still on Firefox 56. My crucial addons still don't work. Still wishing Mozilla made FF56 into an ESR.

Just wanted to say you're not alone, I'm on 56 for the same reasons.

55 here because 56 breaks Mozilla's own Tab Center add-on. I see no mention of new APIs for add-ons in the release notes...

Re: Firefox 58

#40

Post by blinkingled »

Since release 57 I have almost exclusively started using Firefox on Android. I know most quantum enhancements aren't yet in the Android version but something improved leaps and bounds at 57.

The ability to use sync and various privacy enhancing extensions mean FF has a great appeal on Android. Now only if they can fix the remaining URL load delays and improve video playback compatibility it'll be a great experience.

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