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Re: Firefox 58

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So what is the ETA for release of Webrender in Firefox now?

There's no ETA as far as I'm aware—it's mostly in the blocker bug burn-down phase and I don't want to try to predict when that will conclude. Progress is coming along quite nicely, and it's easier than ever to try it out in Nightly (just toggle gfx.webrender.all in about config). Lots of people on the team, including me, use it quite regularly.

There's a newsletter you can check out too: https://mozillagfx.wordpress.com/

Re: Firefox 58

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It was never that slow as some people declare it to be.

Yeah, it positively was , and it would lock the browser up with misbehaving tabs. I managed to use Fx50 (or so, I forget the exact release) for about a day before going "nope, back to Chrome, it might chew batteries like crazy but at least it's fast." Firefox has significantly improved and deserves praise for it. Rewriting history to always be at war with Eastchromea is unnecessary.

This seems to be a weird thing:

I've been om FF the while time and I'm impatient.

In the other hand I've no reason not to believe it when so many people report performance issues.

My best guess is a combination of different browsing habits and/or different hardware/os.

(My browsing habits are mostly hn, local news and pages I work on and I've had decent hardware running various versions of Linux and Windows.)

Re: Firefox 58

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Anyone running Quantum on Linux with a 4k monitor? I switched from Chrome for a couple months but the lag/jank/choppiness (especially when scrolling) finally drove me back to Chrome. Still loving the new FF on my HD screens though.

I've been running it on a 4K screen for a bit, since I've been using the beta channel, and it's seems to work very smoothly. At least, I have noticed the lag or choppiness you've mentioned. One caveat is that my screen runs at 60 hz, so if you have a higher frame rate, then you might see things I won't catch.

Re: Firefox 58

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post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah, it positively was , and it would lock the browser up with misbehaving tabs. I managed to use Fx50 (or so, I forget the exact release) for about a day before going "nope, back to Chrome, it might chew batteries like crazy but at least it's fast." Firefox has significantly improved and deserves praise for it. Rewriting history to always be at war with Eastchromea is unnecessary.

"It doesn't work on my machine" is a new one. The benchmarks have always been respectable. I'm sure there are some configurations that made it work poorly, and that's a problem. That isn't true in general.

The person above said "slow," you assume they meant artificial JavaScript benchmarks but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the intent.

I too found Firefox pre-57 slow and switched to Chrome. That was because the user experience was slow, slow to open, slow in UI responsiveness, slow to make websites actually usable. Everything had this UI lag feel.

I'm sure it benchmarked fine, but I am a human, not a JavaScript benchmark.

Re: Firefox 58

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Switched back to Firefox a few months ago and I'm blown away by the speed. Last time I had this feeling after switching to Chrome from Firefox years ago, haha. Besides videos everything works like a charm. Somehow some videos won't start and sometimes I get a message that the video format could not be read, never had this issue in Chrome.

Does anyone else get videos that show as like a pink or green screen and can still hear audio? I've experienced this on multiple machines with both Linux and Windows.

Edit: Experienced this under FF57, unknown under 58 because I just updated it.

This also usually happens with things like Facebook videos, but would less often happen with Youtube.

Re: Firefox 58

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Just wanted to say you're not alone, I'm on 56 for the same reasons.

55 here because 56 breaks Mozilla's own Tab Center add-on. I see no mention of new APIs for add-ons in the release notes...

IIUC the API needed for this addon[1] will be available in FF 59[2].

Mozilla dropped support for Tab Center a while before Quantum IIRC. Another addon took its place, but then was dropped by its developer with Quantum. Supposedly [1] will allow transition from the older addons. I'm looking forward to finding out once 59 is out.

[1]https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tab-groups/ [2]https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1423725

Re: Firefox 58

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I love Firefox and switched back from Chrome with FF 57, but I really wish they had a Task Manager like Chrome does, so I can spot and kill misbehaving tabs rather than have all my tabs seem to steadily slow down. It's the only feature I miss from Chrome, and hope it appears in FF soon.

Re: Firefox 58

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

"It doesn't work on my machine" is a new one. The benchmarks have always been respectable. I'm sure there are some configurations that made it work poorly, and that's a problem. That isn't true in general.

The person above said "slow," you assume they meant artificial JavaScript benchmarks but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the intent. I too found Firefox pre-57 slow and switched to Chrome. That was because the user experience was slow, slow to open, slow in UI responsiveness, slow to make websites actually usable. Everything had this UI lag feel. I'm sure it benchmarked fine, but I am a human, not a JavaScript benchmark.

That's a fair point. I've always found Firefox pretty speedy, but I can't judge other people's experiences and I don't think it's possible to objectively measure subjective user experience. Every piece of software has people who have unusually bad experiences and I don't know how to judge which are reliable and representative. The best you could do is polls, which are not reliable.

I don't know how to tell the difference between "Firefox is slow" and "Firefox has an undeserved reputation for being slow."

Re: Firefox 58

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post #47

I love Firefox and switched back from Chrome with FF 57, but I really wish they had a Task Manager like Chrome does, so I can spot and kill misbehaving tabs rather than have all my tabs seem to steadily slow down. It's the only feature I miss from Chrome, and hope it appears in FF soon.

Until they provide a decent UI/UX to do that, you can use about:performance for now.
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