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Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

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Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

#71

Since the danger seems to be receding -- I hope NWS & related agencies can use this as a good drill to fix their web properties. Tsunami.gov couldn't handle the load, and many other official links (like mobile.weather.gov) just dump you into a government shutdown notice. Cell.weather.gov isn't even resolving. I'm sure someone thought the critical products would still be easily available even with a government shutdow…

Those are probably not essential as far as the shutdown is concerned. Even NTSB investigations aren’t—there was a train crash or something during the 2013 shutdown that wasn’t investigated.

Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

#72

Since the danger seems to be receding -- I hope NWS & related agencies can use this as a good drill to fix their web properties. Tsunami.gov couldn't handle the load, and many other official links (like mobile.weather.gov) just dump you into a government shutdown notice. Cell.weather.gov isn't even resolving. I'm sure someone thought the critical products would still be easily available even with a government shutdow…

Why would a website go down during a government shutdown? It actually takes more work to turn it off, doesn't it?

A website can go down due to heavy load on the server/a spike in traffic.

Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

#73

Since the danger seems to be receding -- I hope NWS & related agencies can use this as a good drill to fix their web properties. Tsunami.gov couldn't handle the load, and many other official links (like mobile.weather.gov) just dump you into a government shutdown notice. Cell.weather.gov isn't even resolving. I'm sure someone thought the critical products would still be easily available even with a government shutdow…

Those are probably not essential as far as the shutdown is concerned. Even NTSB investigations aren’t—there was a train crash or something during the 2013 shutdown that wasn’t investigated.

Are you sure about that? Is that the Chicago crash your talking about? The reports I was able to find indicate that the investigation did proceed but there was limited communication to the public about it because the office was closed.

Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

#74
What's really wild about this is that it's actually a strike-slip earthquake, based on the focal mechanism (e.g. https://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/us2000cmy3...) Given how big it is, I'm extremely surprised that it's stike slip. Furthermore, given the area (shallow and very near a subduction zone), anyone would immediately guess that it was a megathrust earthquake, and therefore likely to produce a tsunami. Interestingly, it's not at all.

That's likely a big part of why the tsunami watch was canceled so quickly. In addition to there being no direct detection of tsunami waves, strike slip earthquakes don't produce significant vertical movement of the seafloor (barring triggering a landslide, anyway), and therefore don't typically produce tsunamis.

However, Mw 7.9 is huge for a strike-slip earthquake. They're usually not that large. Furthermore, it's out in the oceanic crust of the incoming plate, so it's not a subduction zone earthquake at all. Instead, it's related to internal deformation of the incoming plate (albeit very near the plate boundary, so it's not exactly an intraplate earthquake either).

Large strike slip earthquakes in oceanic crust aren't unheard of, but they're quite rare. This earthquake appears similar to the large strike-slip earthquakes near Sumatra in 2012 (e.g. http://www.earthobservatory.sg/news/exceptionally-large-stri...). Definitely interesting!

Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

#75
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slower than the speed of sound in water, but still very impressive

Faster than an airplane though.

Perhaps, the arc distance traveled for the wave is a smaller than the plane's. The plane is flying 10Km in the sky.

Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

#76

Since the danger seems to be receding -- I hope NWS & related agencies can use this as a good drill to fix their web properties. Tsunami.gov couldn't handle the load, and many other official links (like mobile.weather.gov) just dump you into a government shutdown notice. Cell.weather.gov isn't even resolving. I'm sure someone thought the critical products would still be easily available even with a government shutdow…

Why would a website go down during a government shutdown? It actually takes more work to turn it off, doesn't it?

If there's no appropriation to pay for say, hosting or electricity, you have to shut it off.

Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

#77

Since the danger seems to be receding -- I hope NWS & related agencies can use this as a good drill to fix their web properties. Tsunami.gov couldn't handle the load, and many other official links (like mobile.weather.gov) just dump you into a government shutdown notice. Cell.weather.gov isn't even resolving. I'm sure someone thought the critical products would still be easily available even with a government shutdow…

https://earthquake.usgs.gov provides immediate details on earthquake activity and is my go to whenever there is an earthquake.

Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

#78

https://twitter.com/SF_emergency/status/955764708442714113 San Francisco Department of Emergency Management has tweeted that people within three blocks of the coast or five blocks of the San Francisco Bay should be prepared to evacuate. Tsunami Watch for #SF. If you are w/in SF & 3 blocks of the Pacific Coast or w/in 5 blocks of SF Bay, PREPARE TO EVACUATE SO YOU ARE READY IF EVACUATION IS NEEDED. Check on neighbors…

I'm a recent newcomer to the Bay area. What is the Tsunami situation for places like Mountain View? Places like the GooglePlex are pretty close to the Bay. Is there even any real high ground in the area?? If something happens for real, do sirens sound?

Most bay area residents do not fear tsunami. The risk is low since local faults slip side to side which do not cause tsunami. A subduction fault can cause a tsunami, such as in Alaska, Japan or Chile. We would get hours of warning in such a case.

Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

#79

https://twitter.com/SF_emergency/status/955764708442714113 San Francisco Department of Emergency Management has tweeted that people within three blocks of the coast or five blocks of the San Francisco Bay should be prepared to evacuate. Tsunami Watch for #SF. If you are w/in SF & 3 blocks of the Pacific Coast or w/in 5 blocks of SF Bay, PREPARE TO EVACUATE SO YOU ARE READY IF EVACUATION IS NEEDED. Check on neighbors…

Is Twitter really the official way to notify people of danger? Or is there also a cell phone warning system?

How would they know cell phone numbers? Where I live they call landlines for emergency alerts but there's no other way to specifically target residents.

Re: Tsunami warning ends for B.C. after large earthquake strikes off Alaska

#80

https://twitter.com/SF_emergency/status/955764708442714113 San Francisco Department of Emergency Management has tweeted that people within three blocks of the coast or five blocks of the San Francisco Bay should be prepared to evacuate. Tsunami Watch for #SF. If you are w/in SF & 3 blocks of the Pacific Coast or w/in 5 blocks of SF Bay, PREPARE TO EVACUATE SO YOU ARE READY IF EVACUATION IS NEEDED. Check on neighbors…

Is Twitter really the official way to notify people of danger? Or is there also a cell phone warning system?

Canada actually did introduce a system similar to EAS a few years ago (https://twitter.com/SaultFire/status/943557549139382272).

There is a mandate for mobile alerting taking affect in April.

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