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Re: Facebook open-sources Detectron

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Google doesn't even show a catpcha if they have enough tracking info for toy to verify you're a human, which is pretty simple for them if you don't clear all your cookies for a few days. I'm pretty sure Google thinks if they have to show you a catpcha they've failed, but along with that they don't feel the need to make the catpchas particularly easy if they do have to show it.

Except when it doesn't. Every so often it suddenly spams one with sheer number of captcha on sites that use the Google's Recaptcha API. Then you have to solve detect the houses, cars, store-fronts, deceiver plates and street signs several times successfully to move on or be prepared to solve several more captches to be allowed to move on. I would wish Google fix Recaptcha. It used to be so good.

Are you using an adblocker or any other privacy extensions (PrivacyBadger, Disconnect, etc.) ?

If you are, Google will spam you to death with captchas; it kinda makes sense because captchas are getting easier to solve for machines, so apparently the new test of humanity is whether Google can track your activity on other sites.

Re: Facebook open-sources Detectron

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post #115

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Everyone? Or Google? I don't feel particularly happy about being used as a lab rat, so no, thank you - I don't care about the quality of Google's AI. If anything, I would purposefully mislead it if I knew how.

Don't you think that's how a lot of training data can be generated efficient for future ML/AI breakthroughs?

Has Google published this training set somewhere? Until they do, you're absolutely right that this is a great way to build a training set, but I don't see how it's to anyone's benefit but Google's.

Re: Facebook open-sources Detectron

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post #81
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So is this the end of Google captchas asking for where the car/sign/whatever is? Will there be a final battle of AIs, where they will kill each other, and the unfettered access to websites over VPN/tor wins and laughs the last laugh?

For the car captchas, I've found actually clicking all the boxes with part of a car will always be a wrong answer (distinct from when it just makes you answer twice). Instead, you have to click on the squares that you know it thinks are cars. This creates a twisted Turing test situation where, to prove you are a human, you have to pretend to be a machine's idea of what a human is.

I had to do 20 or more of these to get some post tracking data recently. Found the same thing with most objects where a very small part of an object hadn’t been classified as containing that object.

Re: Facebook open-sources Detectron

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post #26

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Doesn’t mean I’m right :) - see above as he had a point.

Assuming from context you're CTO of Facebook, the facebook.com/schrep link in your profile isn't working: This page isn't available. The link you followed may be broken, or the page may have been removed.

It works for me.

Re: Facebook open-sources Detectron

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post #81
post #7

So is this the end of Google captchas asking for where the car/sign/whatever is? Will there be a final battle of AIs, where they will kill each other, and the unfettered access to websites over VPN/tor wins and laughs the last laugh?

For the car captchas, I've found actually clicking all the boxes with part of a car will always be a wrong answer (distinct from when it just makes you answer twice). Instead, you have to click on the squares that you know it thinks are cars. This creates a twisted Turing test situation where, to prove you are a human, you have to pretend to be a machine's idea of what a human is.

It was the same when this was about words from old books. I always had to fill in letters the average person would have thought it to be, not what it actually was (e.g. the letter "f" for what really was an "s" in gothic type).

Nowadays it's much easier, you can click anything that looks vaguely the same (e.g. boxy things for cars, ads for traffic signs, traffic signs for store fronts etc.). The fact that it's so easy to poison the training set makes me very wary about the autonomous car future...

Re: Facebook open-sources Detectron

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post #7

So is this the end of Google captchas asking for where the car/sign/whatever is? Will there be a final battle of AIs, where they will kill each other, and the unfettered access to websites over VPN/tor wins and laughs the last laugh?

More likely websites will just block Tor exit nodes + whole swaths of IP space (i.e. all AWS+GCP+Azur+DO etc IPs).

Yup, this seems to be a pretty big factor. When I use a VPN to surf the web I'm usually stuck in captcha hell for the most simple and mundane things.

Re: Facebook open-sources Detectron

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post #62

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I hate it when I fail the Turing test, and can't log in to stuff.

Obviously I am 99.99% sure I am clicking correctly, yet Recaptcha displays me another and another captcha, until it lets me move on. Is it a system bug or maybe their bot detection got quite unreliable?

I remember one particular set of pictures with both buses and coaches (and some with neither) on it, and it asked me to click on the buses. It said I'd got it wrong, but presented an almost identical set afterwards, and I included the coaches, but that was also wrong.

Re: Facebook open-sources Detectron

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post #100

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I'm not expert on this but what I'm seeing is that port 443 is serving up a response when jaruzel.com is requested on that port. While you may not be actively advertising that domain with https URLs, it is valid for clients to request one speculatively. There isn't a valid cert for that domain and for some reason for server is offering a different one. Presumably you need to unbind 443 from that host header name (thi…

Complaining about a non-existent SSL cert and then backseat driving the "fix", using words like "you need to", all based on shady memories of configuring IIS a decade ago? Really?

Just having a chat about it really, sorry it rubbed you up the wrong way.

Re: Facebook open-sources Detectron

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I'm not expert on this but what I'm seeing is that port 443 is serving up a response when jaruzel.com is requested on that port. While you may not be actively advertising that domain with https URLs, it is valid for clients to request one speculatively. There isn't a valid cert for that domain and for some reason for server is offering a different one. Presumably you need to unbind 443 from that host header name (thi…

"port 443 is serving up a response when jaruzel.com is requested on that port" The only response is a 404, which is exactly what should be displayed (to the best of my knowledge) for a domain that isn't configured for that IP/port when there are other sites utilizing that IP/port.

Oh dear, this hasn't gone very well has it. I'll have another look when I'm home, I thought I was closer to the mark. Thank you for the response.
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