Earlier quoted context omitted.
OK, I'll bite. How is Monero not protecting people's privacy?
Because most Monero transactions are traceable, according to research by the National University of Singapore: https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/338.pdf If anyone can debunk this I’d love to hear more, but generally I think it’s dangerous to rely on claims of secrecy
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#32Huh, what is the CCC doing in there? The Chaos Computer Club, largest hacker club of Europe, organizer of the Chaos Community Congress that attracts some 15 000 hackers every year?
They're filed under customer support outsourcing with the "explanation":
> Global Ops Customer service outsourcing for the German market.
> Full Name, Date of Birth, Email address, Physical address, Telephone number, Financials-bank, debit, and credit, Transaction history, Business details including URLs, SSN/TIN/EIN, IP Address. Counterparty details.
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#33Just skip this terrible usability nightmare and read the original list instead at [1]. FWIW, I used Ctrl+F to search around (for, in my case, my country name). And the 100 dollar question: is this better or worse than an average bank from your_country? I have no clue about my own bank. Reading through this list, it seems I should get a clue about my own bank. [1] https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/ua/third-parties…
And then what? You find they are doing almost the same, move to the biggest forrest you can find and start living on berries and rabbits? Or you decide to cut 1/3 of your savings, buy paypal and show them how to do it the right way? It's really hard to see any reasonable options you have as source of data.
This right here is the reason we need cryptocurrency. Not for speculation, not as a "settlement layer", just for unfettered global economic activity accessible to normal people.
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#34Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because most Monero transactions are traceable, according to research by the National University of Singapore: https://eprint.iacr.org/2017/338.pdf If anyone can debunk this I’d love to hear more, but generally I think it’s dangerous to rely on claims of secrecy
https://getmonero.org/2017/04/19/an-unofficial-response-to-a...
Thanks for the link. While it’s good to see the paper overstates the problem, it’s also clear that users should not assume that their Monero transactions are untraceable.
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#35Just skip this terrible usability nightmare and read the original list instead at [1]. FWIW, I used Ctrl+F to search around (for, in my case, my country name). And the 100 dollar question: is this better or worse than an average bank from your_country? I have no clue about my own bank. Reading through this list, it seems I should get a clue about my own bank. [1] https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/ua/third-parties…
I just recently opened a new checking account with Chase and, upon reading the terms, found they do exactly this. All banks do...its why (at least for me) we get so many offers on a daily basis. I really wish it werent the case.
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#37Just skip this terrible usability nightmare and read the original list instead at [1]. FWIW, I used Ctrl+F to search around (for, in my case, my country name). And the 100 dollar question: is this better or worse than an average bank from your_country? I have no clue about my own bank. Reading through this list, it seems I should get a clue about my own bank. [1] https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/ua/third-parties…
Worse obviously. PayPal is a US company, US consumer rights and privacy policies are always worse. That's a given.
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#38Huh, what is the CCC doing in there? The Chaos Computer Club, largest hacker club of Europe, organizer of the Chaos Community Congress that attracts some 15 000 hackers every year? They're filed under customer support outsourcing with the "explanation": > Global Ops Customer service outsourcing for the German market. > Full Name, Date of Birth, Email address, Physical address, Telephone number, Financials-bank, debit…
I would be amused to find out it's a PoC to demonstrate what it takes to sucker a company into handing over the data.
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#39Huh, what is the CCC doing in there? The Chaos Computer Club, largest hacker club of Europe, organizer of the Chaos Community Congress that attracts some 15 000 hackers every year? They're filed under customer support outsourcing with the "explanation": > Global Ops Customer service outsourcing for the German market. > Full Name, Date of Birth, Email address, Physical address, Telephone number, Financials-bank, debit…
That's probably the callcenter company CCC, which is unrelated to them. https://www.yourccc.com/
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#40Understanding privacy policies and terms of service has become a nightmare. I wish there was a standard privacy format, which companies could use to define and update their privacy policies. That way, it ll be easier for people to understand
1. What personal data is being used ?
2. What kind of data do websites store in your browser cookie ?
3. Which are the 3rd party tools / services used to share data ?
4. Who are the 3rd parties, the data is being shared with.