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How PayPal Shares Your Data

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Re: How PayPal Shares Your Data

#12
Just skip this terrible usability nightmare and read the original list instead at [1]. FWIW, I used Ctrl+F to search around (for, in my case, my country name).

And the 100 dollar question: is this better or worse than an average bank from your_country? I have no clue about my own bank. Reading through this list, it seems I should get a clue about my own bank.

[1] https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/ua/third-parties-list

Re: How PayPal Shares Your Data

#13
post #12

Just skip this terrible usability nightmare and read the original list instead at [1]. FWIW, I used Ctrl+F to search around (for, in my case, my country name). And the 100 dollar question: is this better or worse than an average bank from your_country? I have no clue about my own bank. Reading through this list, it seems I should get a clue about my own bank. [1] https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/ua/third-parties…

And then what? You find they are doing almost the same, move to the biggest forrest you can find and start living on berries and rabbits? Or you decide to cut 1/3 of your savings, buy paypal and show them how to do it the right way?

It's really hard to see any reasonable options you have as source of data.

Re: How PayPal Shares Your Data

#14
post #13
post #12

Just skip this terrible usability nightmare and read the original list instead at [1]. FWIW, I used Ctrl+F to search around (for, in my case, my country name). And the 100 dollar question: is this better or worse than an average bank from your_country? I have no clue about my own bank. Reading through this list, it seems I should get a clue about my own bank. [1] https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/ua/third-parties…

And then what? You find they are doing almost the same, move to the biggest forrest you can find and start living on berries and rabbits? Or you decide to cut 1/3 of your savings, buy paypal and show them how to do it the right way? It's really hard to see any reasonable options you have as source of data.

Some cryptocurrencies are designed to preserve privacy, to protect people from exactly this problem.

Re: How PayPal Shares Your Data

#15
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then what? You find they are doing almost the same, move to the biggest forrest you can find and start living on berries and rabbits? Or you decide to cut 1/3 of your savings, buy paypal and show them how to do it the right way? It's really hard to see any reasonable options you have as source of data.

Some cryptocurrencies are designed to preserve privacy, to protect people from exactly this problem.

I don't think cryptocurrencies are protecting anyone from any problem.

Re: How PayPal Shares Your Data

#16
post #13
post #12

Just skip this terrible usability nightmare and read the original list instead at [1]. FWIW, I used Ctrl+F to search around (for, in my case, my country name). And the 100 dollar question: is this better or worse than an average bank from your_country? I have no clue about my own bank. Reading through this list, it seems I should get a clue about my own bank. [1] https://www.paypal.com/ie/webapps/mpp/ua/third-parties…

And then what? You find they are doing almost the same, move to the biggest forrest you can find and start living on berries and rabbits? Or you decide to cut 1/3 of your savings, buy paypal and show them how to do it the right way? It's really hard to see any reasonable options you have as source of data.

Basically every time I can pay with PayPal I can also pay with iDEAL (local equiv. of IBAN / bank transfer). PayPal just works quicker. It wouldn't surprise me if my current bank (Rabobank) did the same but then I can compare it with other banks available in my country and consider to (finally) make the switch because I've been considering to switch banks for quite some while (one of my options is Triodos [1] who resort to ethical banking / investments). I also want to start a savings account for my child for later. YMMV.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triodos_Bank

Re: How PayPal Shares Your Data

#17
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then what? You find they are doing almost the same, move to the biggest forrest you can find and start living on berries and rabbits? Or you decide to cut 1/3 of your savings, buy paypal and show them how to do it the right way? It's really hard to see any reasonable options you have as source of data.

Some cryptocurrencies are designed to preserve privacy, to protect people from exactly this problem.

Yes, a known example is Monero. The question is, first and foremost, if you should trust cryptocurrencies.

Re: How PayPal Shares Your Data

#18
post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then what? You find they are doing almost the same, move to the biggest forrest you can find and start living on berries and rabbits? Or you decide to cut 1/3 of your savings, buy paypal and show them how to do it the right way? It's really hard to see any reasonable options you have as source of data.

Some cryptocurrencies are designed to preserve privacy, to protect people from exactly this problem.

Yeah, but the biggest ones are not inflationary, so they end up as exclusively hype-driven speculative investment vehicles. That's not good for a method of payment.

Re: How PayPal Shares Your Data

#19
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Some cryptocurrencies are designed to preserve privacy, to protect people from exactly this problem.

Yes, a known example is Monero. The question is, first and foremost, if you should trust cryptocurrencies.

You don't, that's the point. It's an investment of time and money to learn the tech so you don't need to trust it.

Re: How PayPal Shares Your Data

#20
The tree visualization was kind of cool, so I turned it into a library called d4tree.

https://github.com/shawwn/d4tree

Throw it any JSON data whose structure is isomorphic to http://rebecca-ricks.com/paypal-data/data/paypal.json

Here's an example of how to use d4tree on your site:

https://github.com/shawwn/d4tree-paypal

  git clone https://github.com/shawwn/d4tree-paypal
  cd d4tree-paypal
  yarn && yarn dev
Make any changes you want to paypal.json, then refresh http://localhost:1234 to see them. Whenever you're happy, run `yarn deploy` to push it live.

Standard paypal visualization:

https://dist-zlomdidehn.now.sh/

After truncating paypal.json to three nodes, we get a skinny tree:

https://dist-kzpulmmevd.now.sh/

Let's attach package.json to the top of paypal.json:

  import d4tree from 'd4tree';
  d4tree([{
      name: "package.json",
      parent: "null",
      children: require('./paypal.json'),
      Data: JSON.stringify(require('./package.json'), true, 2),
  }]);

https://dist-vcqquyfbwl.now.sh

https://imgur.com/a/arwF5

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