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Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

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Re: Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

#61

I'd love it if we could ban BI from HN due to their extremely low quality content.

We'd have to ban most of the other news sources for the same reason.

Personally, I assume such articles are bullshit until proven otherwise, but accept them as social objects. What's orders of magnitude more informing is the on-topic and off-topic HN comments under such articles.

Re: Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

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I'm a Whole Foods employee, having one of those rare (for me) moments where I can reasonably be considered very well-informed on the subject of a news article, and it's a little bit disturbing just how misinformed and one-sided the article is. The author seems to have talked with 10-20 disgruntled employees at a few stores nationwide, and a few customers on top of that. Maybe she should have reached out to Whole Food…

> I'm a Whole Foods employee, having one of those rare (for me) moments where I can reasonably be considered very well-informed on the subject of a news article, and it's a little bit disturbing just how misinformed and one-sided the article is. "Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show b…

I wish I could upvote this twice. I know its just anecdotal data, but the rare occasions I have had personal knowledge of news articles they have been grossly inaccurate, every time.

Where is the quote from? Edit: from another comment: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-ge...

Re: Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

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post #7

I'm a Whole Foods employee, having one of those rare (for me) moments where I can reasonably be considered very well-informed on the subject of a news article, and it's a little bit disturbing just how misinformed and one-sided the article is. The author seems to have talked with 10-20 disgruntled employees at a few stores nationwide, and a few customers on top of that. Maybe she should have reached out to Whole Food…

How about the real pictures from customers of bare shelves? Those should count just as much, or are they disgruntled as well?

I don't find it hard to believe that a few stores ran out of bananas or whatever for a day. That's all it would take for a customer to snap a picture. The picture of a meat department cooler with empty slide racks was obviously in the middle of a reset - notice the lack of price tags on all the racks because they were just installed.

Re: Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

#64

Maybe example of AI narrow intelligence gone wrong?, well, assuming its AI, I can't see implementation and Amazon is obviously behind this. Seems like the model is borked.

The article states that this was going on before the Amazon purchase.

    Many customers are blaming Amazon, which bought 
    Whole Foods in August for $13.7 billion. Analysts 
    have speculated that the shortages could be due 
    to a spike in shopper traffic in the wake of the
    acquisition.

    But Whole Foods employees say the problems began 
    before the acquisition. They blame the shortages 
    on a buying system called order-to-shelf that Whole 
    Foods implemented across its stores early last year.

Re: Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

#65
post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I'm a Whole Foods employee, having one of those rare (for me) moments where I can reasonably be considered very well-informed on the subject of a news article, and it's a little bit disturbing just how misinformed and one-sided the article is. "Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show b…

I wish I could upvote this twice. I know its just anecdotal data, but the rare occasions I have had personal knowledge of news articles they have been grossly inaccurate, every time. Where is the quote from? Edit: from another comment: https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/65213-briefly-stated-the-ge...

> Where is the quote from?

Michael Crichton. https://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Murray_Gell-Mann#Quotes_about_...

Re: Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

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post #7

I'm a Whole Foods employee, having one of those rare (for me) moments where I can reasonably be considered very well-informed on the subject of a news article, and it's a little bit disturbing just how misinformed and one-sided the article is. The author seems to have talked with 10-20 disgruntled employees at a few stores nationwide, and a few customers on top of that. Maybe she should have reached out to Whole Food…

> I'm a Whole Foods employee, having one of those rare (for me) moments where I can reasonably be considered very well-informed on the subject of a news article, and it's a little bit disturbing just how misinformed and one-sided the article is. "Briefly stated, the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect works as follows. You open the newspaper to an article on some subject you know well. In Murray’s case, physics. In mine, show b…

Amen. Because it would be terrifying to admit that very few of the people who inform the world actually know what they're talking about.

Re: Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

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post #7

I'm a Whole Foods employee, having one of those rare (for me) moments where I can reasonably be considered very well-informed on the subject of a news article, and it's a little bit disturbing just how misinformed and one-sided the article is. The author seems to have talked with 10-20 disgruntled employees at a few stores nationwide, and a few customers on top of that. Maybe she should have reached out to Whole Food…

Businesss Insider is a clickbait website that takes little snippets of comments and spins fanciful stories about them, and wraps them in junk titles with "how" and "why" but never deliver explanations. It's a shame this site allows that website to be posted here.

Re: Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

#68

How much food was allowed to rot too keep the shelves stocked? I’m fine with a few empty shelves if it means less wasted food.

Absolutely. If the algorithm were perfect, shelves would be empty moments before the restock arrives. But I wonder how the endless bounty effect of fully stocked shelve affects customers' shopping habits. For example, I might not buy the pineapple if it were the last one on the shelf, because surely there must be something wrong with it. Then again, three rotting pineapples that no one would buy is better than three cases of rotting pineapples in the back room.

Re: Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

#69

Maybe example of AI narrow intelligence gone wrong?, well, assuming its AI, I can't see implementation and Amazon is obviously behind this. Seems like the model is borked.

The article states that this was going on before the Amazon purchase. Many customers are blaming Amazon, which bought Whole Foods in August for $13.7 billion. Analysts have speculated that the shortages could be due to a spike in shopper traffic in the wake of the acquisition. But Whole Foods employees say the problems began before the acquisition. They blame the shortages on a buying system called order-to-shelf tha…

I stand corrected. Thank you.

Re: Whole Foods employees reveal why stores are facing a crisis of food shortages

#70
Increase investment into labor costs. Hire people who actually know a thing or two about cooking (that would mean hiring people with culinary training, not just people who perform well in the interview process.) You can convert pretty much all that's going to waste into sellable products on the store shelves. You might have to sacrifice consistency over time in that, your stock or broths made in house will differ per what's available.. but that could be sold as "authentic in house made". Same goes with soups, stews, pies etc.

I worked for a Safeway for a bit and would see how many bananas they'd trash of which you could easily make a few things on mass in house.. banana cream pie, banana ice cream... if regulations were to be cut back some you could even make banana rum in store. I don't think that'll happen anytime soon.

It's also a shame there isn't a system set up where you freeze the wasted product in bulk and ship it out to a facility that could process it into animal feed.

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