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The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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In the medium term, they get public transit systems shut down or reduced in service by pricing fares artificially low for a period of time. This enables them to then exercise monopoly pricing power on the market (or oligopoly with Lyft or whatever local competitor) and ultimately harms the lower classes. Thus the $5 splurge for an Uber instead of the $2 bus hypothetically becomes the $10 Uber with no alternative shor…

> In the medium term, they get public transit systems shut down This sounds like grade-A bullshit. At best rideshare services reduce the use of personal cars and compete with taxi services, but they can't or won't compete with mass transit. Moreover the upper or even middle class aren't exactly the target market of public transportation services. If anyone was switching from public transportation to rideshare service…

First of all, I don't think your tone is very kind or conducive to a productive conversation.

You state with no evidence whatsoever that rideshare services "can't or won't compete with mass transit" while the truth is that millions of people decide between the two on a daily basis. In places like NYC and SF where transit is viable, it is widely used by the lower, middle, even upper middle classes. It has become much more prevalent to simply take Lyft to work every day (some employers just pay for it) which leaves less people on MTA or BART. That hurts funding for maintaining extremely expensive public transit systems which often leads to cutbacks in service during tough times as "we can't support the long hours with so few passengers"

Yes some of the lower class benefits from ridesharing (in the short term at least) and I acknowledged there were two sides to the argument. But ultimately if people get some cheap rides for a few years but then have to choose between expensive rides or degraded public transit, then they've almost certainly lost out unless driverless cars or some other innovation saves the day.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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In the medium term, they get public transit systems shut down or reduced in service by pricing fares artificially low for a period of time. This enables them to then exercise monopoly pricing power on the market (or oligopoly with Lyft or whatever local competitor) and ultimately harms the lower classes. Thus the $5 splurge for an Uber instead of the $2 bus hypothetically becomes the $10 Uber with no alternative shor…

I haven't seen this actually happen, though. In Denver, at least, RTD has been expanding routes and light rail service (albeit slowly, but that is most definitely NOT Uber's fault), even as Uber, Lyft, etc. have become more popular.

Well Denver won best transit in America recently to be fair. This article points at what I'm saying: http://fortune.com/2017/10/13/uber-lyft-public-transit-rider...

Fewer people ride public transit when ridesharing is available. Ridesharing actually substitutes more for public transit than for driving, which means it puts more people into small vehicles and creates more pollution and congestion. Whether you see it in growing Denver or not, less riders ultimately means less fares, less funding, and less service.

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> In the medium term, they get public transit systems shut down This sounds like grade-A bullshit. At best rideshare services reduce the use of personal cars and compete with taxi services, but they can't or won't compete with mass transit. Moreover the upper or even middle class aren't exactly the target market of public transportation services. If anyone was switching from public transportation to rideshare service…

First of all, I don't think your tone is very kind or conducive to a productive conversation. You state with no evidence whatsoever that rideshare services "can't or won't compete with mass transit" while the truth is that millions of people decide between the two on a daily basis. In places like NYC and SF where transit is viable, it is widely used by the lower, middle, even upper middle classes. It has become much…

Here is a recent article about how people are switching from public transit to ridesharing and not from driving as many people expect: http://fortune.com/2017/10/13/uber-lyft-public-transit-rider...

It doesn't make sense to say ridesharing "can't or won't compete with mass transit" when its literally the main thing it competes with.

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this situation involved several people. possibly an entire team. I also believe I was the target of an information-hunting initiative within uber, which was revealed publicly last year. I believe I was only interviewed to gain as much information about the company i was working for at the time. The recruiter was not listed on any uber database, and may not have even been officially a recruiting lead. after several pr…

Wow, that's appalling. I'm really sorry to hear that. I know there's a competitive intelligence group somewhere in Uber, and given the ultimatum email specifically targeted at that group that I mentioned in my other comment, I guess it doesn't come as a complete surprise. I do have a copy of an email about the newest policy governing competitive intelligence gathering from Salle Yoo (head of legal) from late august 2…

Yea, not much I could do in the situation. I didn't want to raise any flags because I didn't want it get out in the public and I especially didn't want the company I was working for at the time to know I was interviewing elsewhere.

It was very shocking why they were asking very specific technical questions regarding how the company I was working for at the time was addressing. Let's just say it relates to the infamous Uber-Waymo case. That was my red flag, about 30 min - 1 hour into the whole interview process.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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Significantly better with Dara who understands the needs for a peacetime ceo. Happy to field any specific questions.

What are two things uber is scared of? E.g., for a long distance company fear was the cell phone. ($22B revenue to $8B in a five year stretch)

An open source ride summoning tool? Maybe powered by a cryptocurrency?

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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Anyone who is miserable has already left in 2017. Many long time employees are waiting for SoftBank deal to close before leaving which makes sense. They deserve to be enriched for their hard work. But they are only a couple of hundred employees at most. We have 15,000+ employees and 3,000 engineers. I’m extremely proud of the work I’ve done at Uber. I have no worries about finding my next job. I have a laundry list o…

You think bias against someone living in a particular city is comparable to bias against someone voluntarily working for a company with an unprecedented reputation for unethical behavior top to bottom stretching back years and years? My cohort of friends, many of whom are hiring managers, won’t even patronize Uber, much less hire someone who voluntarily worked there without demonstrably showing signs of serious soul…

Unprecedented? I guess you weren't around during the dotcom days or you don't know much about Wall Street companies.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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Uber massively empowered the underclass by destroying the taxi cartels. Lyft exists because of Uber. Even if one argues that Uber deserves to be punished for its various sins, the revolution they helped spark will improve transportation over time. Just demolishing the medallion racket alone is a vast improvement for the underclass, of which pretty much all taxi drivers belonged. Pre-Uber, Taxi drivers were more like…

Stop repeating this, it is wrong. Uber copied Lyft, Uber was initially another high end black car/limo service, the whole history was documented on TechCrunch articles, here is one to start: https://techcrunch.com/2012/05/22/zimrides-lyft-is-going-to-...

App based rideshare brokering would have happened one way or another. If it hadn't been Uber or Lyft it would have been someone else, or possibly many others. Nobody in particular deserves special credit for coming up with the idea. Although Uber was quite exceptional in their aggressive growth and willingness to challenge the law. I think without Uber and specifically Kalanik, it wouldn't have happened as fast.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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How does Uber 'oppress the underclass'? Puhlease.

Commoditizing labor is very disruptive and stuff, yet it drives down the price to commodity levels - right above subsistence. The entire gig economy is like this. And not just them either.

If there were better options available, people would work there. Folks drive ubers not because they want to contribute to the 'gig economy', but because that's the best option they have. Removing someone's best option never helps them.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

#109

What's it like to show up to work at Uber? Do people just sit there miserably while they constantly remind themselves that a "big payday" is on the way like some kind of perverse mantra? What if the pay day never comes? How will it look when your resume says you stayed at Uber well after everything has been revealed?

Anyone who is miserable has already left in 2017. Many long time employees are waiting for SoftBank deal to close before leaving which makes sense. They deserve to be enriched for their hard work. But they are only a couple of hundred employees at most. We have 15,000+ employees and 3,000 engineers. I’m extremely proud of the work I’ve done at Uber. I have no worries about finding my next job. I have a laundry list o…

>I’m extremely proud of the work I’ve done at Uber. I have no worries about finding my next job. I have a laundry list of companies who have contacted me since Jan 1, 2018, including FANG.

Given that your name is "uberemployee"... and that your comment history shows you are for lack of a better term an uber jingoist, I have to ask...

How do I know you're not some HR shill trying to do damage control?

/I say this half jokingly

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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Significantly better with Dara who understands the needs for a peacetime ceo. Happy to field any specific questions.

What are two things uber is scared of? E.g., for a long distance company fear was the cell phone. ($22B revenue to $8B in a five year stretch)

1. Not rebuilding our reputation/changing things for the better.

2. Not competing in self-driving.

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