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The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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If you’ve followed the Kalanick story till now, there’s nothing new in this article. However, it’s interesting to see it all put together. Anyone know what it’s like inside Uber today?

Significantly better with Dara who understands the needs for a peacetime ceo. Happy to field any specific questions.

What are two things uber is scared of?

E.g., for a long distance company fear was the cell phone. ($22B revenue to $8B in a five year stretch)

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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When I see Uber on a resume I have to ask more questions to get comfortable that I'm not hiring an asshole. Uber has many good, decent people, but there is definitely some guilt by association.

For what it's worth, I do the same -- except for Google and Apple , employees, and also anywhere else. Guilt by association is just you being naive.

> Guilt by association is just you being naive.

You might be right.

But there are many people making hiring decisions who are just as naive as I am, so the Uber brand doesn't help.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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What's it like to show up to work at Uber? Do people just sit there miserably while they constantly remind themselves that a "big payday" is on the way like some kind of perverse mantra? What if the pay day never comes? How will it look when your resume says you stayed at Uber well after everything has been revealed?

Anyone who is miserable has already left in 2017. Many long time employees are waiting for SoftBank deal to close before leaving which makes sense. They deserve to be enriched for their hard work. But they are only a couple of hundred employees at most. We have 15,000+ employees and 3,000 engineers. I’m extremely proud of the work I’ve done at Uber. I have no worries about finding my next job. I have a laundry list o…

You think bias against someone living in a particular city is comparable to bias against someone voluntarily working for a company with an unprecedented reputation for unethical behavior top to bottom stretching back years and years?

My cohort of friends, many of whom are hiring managers, won’t even patronize Uber, much less hire someone who voluntarily worked there without demonstrably showing signs of serious soul searching about the ethics of the company.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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What's it like to show up to work at Uber? Do people just sit there miserably while they constantly remind themselves that a "big payday" is on the way like some kind of perverse mantra? What if the pay day never comes? How will it look when your resume says you stayed at Uber well after everything has been revealed?

The tech people I know are attracted by the chance to solve some very interesting problems at large scale.

Ethics should enter into as well. The fact that it doesn't is a failure on the part of the education system.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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If you’ve followed the Kalanick story till now, there’s nothing new in this article. However, it’s interesting to see it all put together. Anyone know what it’s like inside Uber today?

Dara couldn’t be more perfect for who we need as a CEO right now and going forward. Culture is definitely shifting toward a more normal work life balance. Things were crazy for many years with how much people worked but for the most part it was out of excitement. Many, many people were overworked however and burnt out. That culture of squeezing out every ounce from everyone is gone, for the better. It’s not sustainab…

Just walk to Orench Beyond for lunch every day.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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If you’ve followed the Kalanick story till now, there’s nothing new in this article. However, it’s interesting to see it all put together. Anyone know what it’s like inside Uber today?

Dara couldn’t be more perfect for who we need as a CEO right now and going forward. Culture is definitely shifting toward a more normal work life balance. Things were crazy for many years with how much people worked but for the most part it was out of excitement. Many, many people were overworked however and burnt out. That culture of squeezing out every ounce from everyone is gone, for the better. It’s not sustainab…

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Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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I don't think it looks bad on a resume. Anecdotally, all of the candidates I've interviewed who work at Uber presently have been quite good.

It does to me. Specifically, it says the person either tolerates or contributes to what is widely regarded as one of the most toxic work cultures in software; same goes for Amazon. Up to me to determine whether they're the former or latter. Granted, when they joined and when they left and why makes some difference, but it's still not a great starting place for a candidate.

Disclaimer: I work at Uber.

Wow tell me what company you're recruiting for. I'll make sure to never apply there. This is really priveleged thinking, I've worked for Google, Amazon, and Uber, and two start ups. Let me tell you the engineering culture aren't all that different across all orgs I've worked at. It's really simplistic and naive of you to take what you hear on the media as truth. It's only "widely regarded" because Uber is under heavy scrutiny, because of the industry we operate in. Tell me what company do you work for? If all of media put a magnifying glass over you and all your coworkers, I'll gauarntee, you'll soon be widely regarded as toxic. If your company is even remotely successful, I'll gauarntee that the media will find or spin up a business malpractice of some kind.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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If you’ve followed the Kalanick story till now, there’s nothing new in this article. However, it’s interesting to see it all put together. Anyone know what it’s like inside Uber today?

Dara couldn’t be more perfect for who we need as a CEO right now and going forward. Culture is definitely shifting toward a more normal work life balance. Things were crazy for many years with how much people worked but for the most part it was out of excitement. Many, many people were overworked however and burnt out. That culture of squeezing out every ounce from everyone is gone, for the better. It’s not sustainab…

is the joke that one day you'll be profitable? or the food?

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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What's it like to show up to work at Uber? Do people just sit there miserably while they constantly remind themselves that a "big payday" is on the way like some kind of perverse mantra? What if the pay day never comes? How will it look when your resume says you stayed at Uber well after everything has been revealed?

Anyone who is miserable has already left in 2017. Many long time employees are waiting for SoftBank deal to close before leaving which makes sense. They deserve to be enriched for their hard work. But they are only a couple of hundred employees at most. We have 15,000+ employees and 3,000 engineers. I’m extremely proud of the work I’ve done at Uber. I have no worries about finding my next job. I have a laundry list o…

3000 engineers seems like a ludicrous number for a taxi company. I'd expect the new CEO to start shrinking to focus on core business.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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"Silicon Valley innovation now is directly aimed at oppressing the underclass, and everybody knows it and can see it. They hate Uber. People hate Uber. It means the death of the era of good feelings that came with this constant Moore's Law style innovation.

And that was an unforced error, by Silicon Valley. It was in their DNA. They didn't have to give Travis Kalanick, a guy they despised and never trusted, for good reason—They didn't have to give him all that venture capital.

But they saw him as an expendable probe, so they cynically gave him money, to see how much law-breaking he could get away with in the name of their disruption activities.

That was hubris—and nemesis is well on the way."

- NEXT17 | Bruce Sterling | Live from 2027

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