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The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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If you’ve followed the Kalanick story till now, there’s nothing new in this article. However, it’s interesting to see it all put together. Anyone know what it’s like inside Uber today?

Dara couldn’t be more perfect for who we need as a CEO right now and going forward. Culture is definitely shifting toward a more normal work life balance. Things were crazy for many years with how much people worked but for the most part it was out of excitement. Many, many people were overworked however and burnt out. That culture of squeezing out every ounce from everyone is gone, for the better. It’s not sustainable.

Frances Frei is a former Harvard Business School professor and arranged for several HBX classes from Harvard professors on business strategy that were very interesting and helpful. Having her as a guide as to how a great company should be behaving is a huge asset.

TK was great and built the entire industry but he overstepped his abilities and became his and Uber’s worst enemy.

I’m assuming after the SoftBank deal closes many long time employees will be gone. And why shouldn’t they, they are worth millions at this point, but only number in the hundreds. And this happens to all companies in the same situation, like google, Facebook, Dropbox, etc.

Overall the pace has slowed dramatically and has a big company feel. But the majority of people, myself included, are fiercely proud of the work that we do and the product that we have built.

The food could be better, though. Maybe after we become profitable? (This is an internal joke to all Uber employees)

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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What's it like to show up to work at Uber? Do people just sit there miserably while they constantly remind themselves that a "big payday" is on the way like some kind of perverse mantra? What if the pay day never comes? How will it look when your resume says you stayed at Uber well after everything has been revealed?

The tech people I know are attracted by the chance to solve some very interesting problems at large scale.

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What's it like to show up to work at Uber? Do people just sit there miserably while they constantly remind themselves that a "big payday" is on the way like some kind of perverse mantra? What if the pay day never comes? How will it look when your resume says you stayed at Uber well after everything has been revealed?

I don't think it looks bad on a resume. Anecdotally, all of the candidates I've interviewed who work at Uber presently have been quite good.

It does to me. Specifically, it says the person either tolerates or contributes to what is widely regarded as one of the most toxic work cultures in software; same goes for Amazon. Up to me to determine whether they're the former or latter. Granted, when they joined and when they left and why makes some difference, but it's still not a great starting place for a candidate.

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If you’ve followed the Kalanick story till now, there’s nothing new in this article. However, it’s interesting to see it all put together. Anyone know what it’s like inside Uber today?

Significantly better with Dara who understands the needs for a peacetime ceo. Happy to field any specific questions.

Have you had any experience with Frances Frei?

She seems to be a unique talent who seems genuine from her interviews. I'm curious how she is viewed within Uber and what impact she may be having.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it looks bad on a resume. Anecdotally, all of the candidates I've interviewed who work at Uber presently have been quite good.

It does to me. Specifically, it says the person either tolerates or contributes to what is widely regarded as one of the most toxic work cultures in software; same goes for Amazon. Up to me to determine whether they're the former or latter. Granted, when they joined and when they left and why makes some difference, but it's still not a great starting place for a candidate.

its good to know you judge people by where they come from and not what they can do / have done.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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What's it like to show up to work at Uber? Do people just sit there miserably while they constantly remind themselves that a "big payday" is on the way like some kind of perverse mantra? What if the pay day never comes? How will it look when your resume says you stayed at Uber well after everything has been revealed?

Anyone who is miserable has already left in 2017. Many long time employees are waiting for SoftBank deal to close before leaving which makes sense. They deserve to be enriched for their hard work. But they are only a couple of hundred employees at most. We have 15,000+ employees and 3,000 engineers.

I’m extremely proud of the work I’ve done at Uber. I have no worries about finding my next job. I have a laundry list of companies who have contacted me since Jan 1, 2018, including FANG.

If the company doesn’t want to hire me because of where I work, I’m happy to not work for anyone who makes snap judgements based on resume line items. That’s basically like excluding people because of the city they grew up in, the school they went to, or the football teams that they support. I’m happy never working for or alongside people like that.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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What's it like to show up to work at Uber? Do people just sit there miserably while they constantly remind themselves that a "big payday" is on the way like some kind of perverse mantra? What if the pay day never comes? How will it look when your resume says you stayed at Uber well after everything has been revealed?

Anyone who is miserable has already left in 2017. Many long time employees are waiting for SoftBank deal to close before leaving which makes sense. They deserve to be enriched for their hard work. But they are only a couple of hundred employees at most. We have 15,000+ employees and 3,000 engineers. I’m extremely proud of the work I’ve done at Uber. I have no worries about finding my next job. I have a laundry list o…

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Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't think it looks bad on a resume. Anecdotally, all of the candidates I've interviewed who work at Uber presently have been quite good.

It does to me. Specifically, it says the person either tolerates or contributes to what is widely regarded as one of the most toxic work cultures in software; same goes for Amazon. Up to me to determine whether they're the former or latter. Granted, when they joined and when they left and why makes some difference, but it's still not a great starting place for a candidate.

This reply right here is why I turned down Uber when a recruiter reached out to me. I have no moral qualms about a company that ignores taxi laws, but the irrational reputational damage has been done, no matter how much they cleaned up the workplace.

Hiring is already enough of a mind game with without adding "worked for a company the tech press loves to shred every chance they get" to my list of worries.

Re: The Fall of Travis Kalanick

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> “Until 2017, you could go into Uber on any given day and half the T-shirts were Uber T-shirts,” says one executive. “They disappeared overnight. People didn’t want to wear Uber stuff.”

Speaking for myself, I worked at Uber in 2015/2016 and did not wear Uber swag in public because I was afraid of awkward encounters with Uber drivers, which happened on several occasions sitting in the car when it somehow became known I was an Uber employee.
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