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Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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I think the biggest impact is going to be felt with current generations of 18 year olds. My kid (about to be 18) has no interest in getting a driver's license and neither are any of his friends. He's happy to be taking Uber and Lyft anywhere he goes. And between the cost of the vehicle and insurance, it's cheaper for me as well.

When I was 16, I couldn't wait to get a car.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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So there's something like 260+ million [1] vehicles registered here in 2015. That 250k number seems like an impossibly high percentage of people that have given up on owning a car because of ride sharing apps.

[1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/183505/number-of-vehicle...

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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So there's something like 260+ million [1] vehicles registered here in 2015. That 250k number seems like an impossibly high percentage of people that have given up on owning a car because of ride sharing apps. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/183505/number-of-vehicle...

0.1% is large, but not impossibly large.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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So there's something like 260+ million [1] vehicles registered here in 2015. That 250k number seems like an impossibly high percentage of people that have given up on owning a car because of ride sharing apps. [1] https://www.statista.com/statistics/183505/number-of-vehicle...

Why is 1 in 1000 too high? I used to recommend that new San Francisco residents keep a car if they could afford to. I no longer make that recommendation. Even my suburban parents decided against a second car because of Uber.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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This seems like a huge impact. Not sure how they came up with that number (I'm guessing customer surveys, so it's probably not that accurate). How does this change the debate that ride-sharing congests up cities?

Any ride sharing trip is going to be Driver Start > Pickup > Drop-off which is by necessity longer than pickup > drop-off. The only possible benefit is if people take public transit more or take fewer trips, which is not something you can see from ride sharing numbers.

I think there's an argument to be made that ride sharing apps means people have an easier time relying on public transit, though, given they can use the apps to fill in gaps, making the leap from owning a car easier.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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I think the biggest impact is going to be felt with current generations of 18 year olds. My kid (about to be 18) has no interest in getting a driver's license and neither are any of his friends. He's happy to be taking Uber and Lyft anywhere he goes. And between the cost of the vehicle and insurance, it's cheaper for me as well. When I was 16, I couldn't wait to get a car.

This is one of the few cases where I was ahead of my time.

I turned 16 about 20 years ago and had 0 interest in a driver's license. I lived in an extremely rural area. My parents (rightly) said that I'd need to get a job to pay for a car. I figured why bother since I'd be paying for a car to drive to the job where I'd make money to pay for the car.

Seemed like a complete waste of time and effort.

20 years later, I still have no plans to get a license but have changed my tune on work a bit.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ride sharing drivers can pick up in the area they drop-off, though

Triangle inequality still holds, sorry to say It only makes sense if they are transporting two or more people that would otherwise have used two or more vehicles. But I think that kind of rideshare system is the absolute minority of Uber and Lyft rides.

Yes, the reduction is over vehicles (fewer unique vehicles), not vehicle miles.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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How sustainable is Lyft's pricing in comparison to Uber? I've been getting absolutely dirt cheap Uber Pool fares in the Bay Area. From my apartment to work the fare is often less than two dollars (which is around what BART would cost me), and I've even had fares less than dollar. I would be amazed if this is making anyone a profit, but if the price even doubled I would be way less likely to use Uber/Lyft on a whim.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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I think the biggest impact is going to be felt with current generations of 18 year olds. My kid (about to be 18) has no interest in getting a driver's license and neither are any of his friends. He's happy to be taking Uber and Lyft anywhere he goes. And between the cost of the vehicle and insurance, it's cheaper for me as well. When I was 16, I couldn't wait to get a car.

This is one of the few cases where I was ahead of my time. I turned 16 about 20 years ago and had 0 interest in a driver's license. I lived in an extremely rural area. My parents (rightly) said that I'd need to get a job to pay for a car. I figured why bother since I'd be paying for a car to drive to the job where I'd make money to pay for the car. Seemed like a complete waste of time and effort. 20 years later, I st…

Mmm, yeah. And it only took two decades.
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