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Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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This seems like a huge impact. Not sure how they came up with that number (I'm guessing customer surveys, so it's probably not that accurate). How does this change the debate that ride-sharing congests up cities?

Any ride sharing trip is going to be Driver Start > Pickup > Drop-off which is by necessity longer than pickup > drop-off.

The only possible benefit is if people take public transit more or take fewer trips, which is not something you can see from ride sharing numbers.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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In SF I can believe it. In a large area like DFW the wait times for a ride are too long to be practical. Also the question of cost is relevant, I drive a car I have paid for in a city with reasonable insurance rates and no issues with parking. Lyft or Uber would be impracticable here.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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post #2

This seems like a huge impact. Not sure how they came up with that number (I'm guessing customer surveys, so it's probably not that accurate). How does this change the debate that ride-sharing congests up cities?

Any ride sharing trip is going to be Driver Start > Pickup > Drop-off which is by necessity longer than pickup > drop-off. The only possible benefit is if people take public transit more or take fewer trips, which is not something you can see from ride sharing numbers.

Ride sharing drivers can pick up in the area they drop-off, though

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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post #3
post #2

This seems like a huge impact. Not sure how they came up with that number (I'm guessing customer surveys, so it's probably not that accurate). How does this change the debate that ride-sharing congests up cities?

Any ride sharing trip is going to be Driver Start > Pickup > Drop-off which is by necessity longer than pickup > drop-off. The only possible benefit is if people take public transit more or take fewer trips, which is not something you can see from ride sharing numbers.

> Any ride sharing trip is going to be Driver Start > Pickup > Drop-off which is by necessity longer than pickup > drop-of

You forgot "circling for twenty minutes searching for parking." Include the parking footprint of private cars and I think ridesharing comes out ahead.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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post #3
post #2

This seems like a huge impact. Not sure how they came up with that number (I'm guessing customer surveys, so it's probably not that accurate). How does this change the debate that ride-sharing congests up cities?

Any ride sharing trip is going to be Driver Start > Pickup > Drop-off which is by necessity longer than pickup > drop-off. The only possible benefit is if people take public transit more or take fewer trips, which is not something you can see from ride sharing numbers.

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Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any ride sharing trip is going to be Driver Start > Pickup > Drop-off which is by necessity longer than pickup > drop-off. The only possible benefit is if people take public transit more or take fewer trips, which is not something you can see from ride sharing numbers.

Ride sharing drivers can pick up in the area they drop-off, though

Triangle inequality still holds, sorry to say

It only makes sense if they are transporting two or more people that would otherwise have used two or more vehicles. But I think that kind of rideshare system is the absolute minority of Uber and Lyft rides.

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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post #3
post #2

This seems like a huge impact. Not sure how they came up with that number (I'm guessing customer surveys, so it's probably not that accurate). How does this change the debate that ride-sharing congests up cities?

Any ride sharing trip is going to be Driver Start > Pickup > Drop-off which is by necessity longer than pickup > drop-off. The only possible benefit is if people take public transit more or take fewer trips, which is not something you can see from ride sharing numbers.

Though it seems to be doing the opposite. In London where car ownership is low (at least in inner London) it seems to be taking share from public transit. Nearly 100k uber/minicab drivers have been added and bus ridership has collapsed.

A) from less usage because of Uber

B) because all these extra taxis have caused mass congestion which means buses are unbelievably slow compared to even a few years ago

Re: Lyft says nearly 250K of its passengers ditched a personal car in 2017

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post #3
post #2

This seems like a huge impact. Not sure how they came up with that number (I'm guessing customer surveys, so it's probably not that accurate). How does this change the debate that ride-sharing congests up cities?

Any ride sharing trip is going to be Driver Start > Pickup > Drop-off which is by necessity longer than pickup > drop-off. The only possible benefit is if people take public transit more or take fewer trips, which is not something you can see from ride sharing numbers.

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