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Post by interfixus »

tomalpha wrote: post #234
interfixus wrote: post #204

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Thank you - but several others found me worth downvoting :) I'm live just across the North Sea from you, in Denmark, and I am completely decoupled from internal US politics. And of the distinctive coiffures, I must say I find young Kim by far the most worrisome, seeing as he probably doesn't have a functioning set of checks and balances to keep him grounded if he really does go mental some day. Were I living in Seoul…

I suspect I would worry too. Really I was just picking up on the word “obvious” in the parent post. Whenever I see that I always wonder if the writer’s “obvious” is the same as my “obvious”. It usually is but, surprisingly often, is not.

A sound principle, and very much in line with my own experience.

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Post by BurningFrog »

greggman wrote: post #293
sjg007 wrote: post #258

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Don't forget that the water heater has 50 gallons in it.

not in Japan. Japanese water heaters are on demand heaters. I love them becahse unlike US style tank based heaters Japanese on demand heaters never run out of hot water.

Until the WHOLE SYSTEM runs out of water.

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Post by aqsalose »

matte_black wrote: post #113
0xdada wrote: post #32

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I don't think it's as bad as you think. Check out this thread: https://twitter.com/lcamtuf/status/952265416289632256 . If shit hits the fan and you end up surviving, your help in the aftermath can be crucial.

What software development skills will be most useful in a post-apocalyptic world?

> What software development skills will be most useful in a post-apocalyptic world?

At the moment of writing this, North Korea alone is not able to bring about the kind of total apocalypse people are thinking when they talk about "post-apocalyptic world". Assuming China joins in (thought I am unsure why they would, unless US strikes first), according the Wikipedia they have 260 warheads [1], which is enough to bring about a massive catastrophe but I am not convinced that the result would be total collapse of civilization.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_and_weapons_of_mass_dest...

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Post by spraak »

__david__ wrote: post #199
spraak wrote: post #148

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Both the symbol/mark and the sound exist natively in English text and speech, so it bothers me in the same way someone might be bothered by mixing up their/they're or your/you're.

Yes the mark exists, but it has a completely different meaning. It's used in a way that's not a plural, a contraction, or an indication of dropped letters. The mark makes zero sense in English.

You could say the same about most symbols in words that are used in English but that are not from English. Your point doesn't stand.

Edit: I.e. it doesn't make it a reason not to use it. Even in English there are many sounds that are not pronounced how they're written. We still take the effort to put the 'w' in 'sword', but most will say 'sord'.

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Post by Bluestrike2 »

cookiecaper wrote: post #133
cantrip wrote: post #74

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Yeah I think it's one of the worst reactions you could have. Without any indication of how bad the attack actually is, you should really assume the best and set yourself up to be able to survive. What if it's a conventional bombing, or you're not directly in the blast zone? Or if the nuke fails to detonate? The immediate aftermath if the most important time. While he's futzing around with Youtube and getting drunk th…

>What if it's a conventional bombing, or you're not directly in the blast zone? Or if the nuke fails to detonate? Yeah, this has been the most frustrating thing reading all of these accounts. A "ballistic missile" does not necessarily have a nuclear warhead. I don't see anyone correcting this and it seems like an important thing to know.

No country is going to risk that for two reasons in the current global context.

First, everyone will assume the payload is nuclear. Once the launch is detected, literally no one is going to even consider for a single moment that the missile might have a conventional payload. All actions, responses, and threat assessments are going to treat it as a nuke. If you're going to launch ICBMs at people, you might as well mount a nuke to it because the rest of the nuclear club is going to respond as if you had.

Second, the alert was for Hawaii. Given their isolation (they're over 7,500km from Korea), that means the missile is an ICBM. The Hwasong-15[0] can carry an estimated ~1,000kg payload, though it's unknown if it could do so for its full range.[1] That's tiny for a warhead. Mounting it on an ICBM, even if your country doesn't get blown to hell after launch, would just be a waste of money. The same goes for SLBMs as well. The only exception would be for precision strikes, but that's not really relevant to NK.

0. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hwasong-15

1. http://allthingsnuclear.org/dwright/nk-longest-missile-test-...

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Post by IncRnd »

delbel wrote: post #98
ourmandave wrote: post #50

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Fourth, wash down potassium iodide pills with the wine. https://emergency.cdc.gov/radiation/ki.asp

Does wine do anything to increase the effective method of action of potassium iodide pill? Or just because? (My just because is to make pancakes in an emergency sit-tight scenario, when the power goes out for 3 days or I'm snowed in) But being serious another nutrient you could take is Turmeric/Curcumin as an anti-rad supplement. However it isn't easily absorbed. There's a version called BCM-95 that is better. But be…

> But being serious another nutrient you could take is Turmeric/Curcumin as an anti-rad supplement. However it isn't easily absorbed.

You need to take black pepper with it for absorption of Curcumin. Some of the curcumin supplements already have piperine for absorption, so there is no need to make artificial delivery mechanisms for Turmeric off of Amazon. Plus, the amount in Tumeric is very low compared to just purchasing the supplement with piperine in it. You'd spend all your emergency cash making some drug delivery system that wouldn't deliver much of anything.

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Post by henrikschroder »

QAPereo wrote: post #282
henrikschroder wrote: post #220

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Pro: A bunch of them are nutty doomsday preppers, with a lot of food supplies in their basements. Con: The polygamy, child abuse, and endless fast and testimony meetings get kinda old after a while.

I’m not a Mormon, or even a Christian, so I have no stake here. What the fuck? No. I’ve traveled all over, and met a lot of Mormons and have Mormon friends. The most sinister thing they’re into is family game night. Ok, I’m no fan of the missionary thing, but again, as a non-Christian I appreciate that the Mormons take no for an answer, and will still hang out with you. Their religion is wacky, but so is every religi…

Of course your anecdotes are true, individual Mormons can be the nicest, most well-meaning people ever, and Mormonism does indeed have a reputation for being a wacky but harmless religion.

However, Utah has one of the highest youth suicide rates in the nation, and one of the highest rates of anti-depressant medication use in the nation. This is in large part due to the unrealistic expectations and pressure its members are subject to.

Sure, they're not as overtly harmful as similar high-demand cults like FLDS or Scientology, but try joining and then not paying 10% of your gross income to the church and see how that works out.

Look... If you want a different perspective, just start reading people's stories here: https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/

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Post by exabrial »

mejari wrote: post #288
exabrial wrote: post #217

Everyone is talking about nukes... I doubt nk has a compact nuclear warhead that can fit on a ballistic missile. Maybe in another 5-10 years, but not right now. They most likely have chemical and biological weapons, as confirmed by the nk soldier that defected and had anthrax antibodies in his blood.

We already know they have compact nuclear warheads https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/north...

Well that sucks. Guess I'm behind in the news. Wow, that's a lot of nukes... 60??

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Post by jen729w »

UweSchmidt wrote: post #210
laretluval wrote: post #127

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What would NK have to gain by nuking Hawaii? It would cause the US to retaliate massively, while not doing serious damage to its military capabilities.

You think the US would actually retaliate against a limited nuclear attack in an isolated place with a massive nuclear counterattack? (I can see it in a cold war scenario against the USSR, with tanks moving into Europe and the world order at stake) I think the US woudln't and, of course, shouldn't. The usual game-theoretical reasonings in this regard are misguided and shortsighted.

Tragically "the US" now means "Donald Trump" specifically regarding their propensity/ability to retaliate to a nuclear strike. Yeah, I think he'd do it. He's a maniac.
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