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What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by rymohr »

fosk wrote: post #170
McKayDavis wrote: post #149

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I had considered that too and breaking a window to gain access was an option. I'm not a member of the church, but I chose this building specifically as it was most likely to have other people seeking shelter there who also had keys to the building. Indeed, the first family to arrive after us lived a block away and I did verify they do have a key.

Assuming you can survive the initial blast, how do you plan to protect yourself and your family from radioactive dust for 7-10 days (assuming windows are broken by the blast - or by you).

I’m curious how long the fallout would actually be an issue here, assuming trades were blowing 10-15 knots as usual.

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Post by hateduser2 »

matte_black wrote: post #195
pault wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would think basic knowledge of electrical engineering, solar & battery technology, radio, and mesh networking would make you pretty handy. Front end developers will be the first ones in the stew pot.

If there’s no need for front end devs anymore does that mean apps will be designed in very utilitarian, command line like interfaces with no frills? That might actually be pleasant.

Front end dev is utilitarian. Learning is not 0 cost.

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Post by acqq »

McKayDavis wrote: post #102

I live on O'ahu and was holding my phone when the emergency alert came in at 8:07am. I yelled "Oh my God!" and ran to show my wife the message. I've run through this scenario a few times in my head before and I knew every minute was critical -- so I went into action mode immediately. I told my two kids to get dressed now because we were leaving in exactly 1 minute. The reason we were leaving is our house is single-wa…

> cell phone charger

I don’t think it would work in the given scenario?

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Post by interfixus »

tomalpha wrote: post #196
interfixus wrote: post #76

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And I - just as genuinely, and not attempting to troll - am curious how anyone could be in doubt, current reports of red buttons and impressively coiffed heads of state taken into account.

Taking this in good faith (I didn’t downvote you :-) I’ll take a stab at responding: I was curious as to whether there might be historical or cultural factors in play beyond the immediate political tensions. It’s also worth pointing out that I live in the UK and whilst we get regular news headlines on the state of US politics we’re somewhat removed from much of the immediate political tension. Generalising perhaps, b…

Thank you - but several others found me worth downvoting :)

I'm live just across the North Sea from you, in Denmark, and I am completely decoupled from internal US politics. And of the distinctive coiffures, I must say I find young Kim by far the most worrisome, seeing as he probably doesn't have a functioning set of checks and balances to keep him grounded if he really does go mental some day. Were I living in Seoul or Tokyo, I really would have this on my mind every day.

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Post by cbr »

McKayDavis wrote: post #149
dmarlow wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What will you do if you can't get into your church building?

I had considered that too and breaking a window to gain access was an option. I'm not a member of the church, but I chose this building specifically as it was most likely to have other people seeking shelter there who also had keys to the building. Indeed, the first family to arrive after us lived a block away and I did verify they do have a key.

    I'm not a member of the church
I'm atheist, but if things were going horribly wrong LDS would be high on my list of people to be around.

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Post by hateduser2 »

rdiddly wrote: post #152
jonnycomputer wrote: post #36

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I'm guessing that you don't have children. And no, your plan isn't as good as any other; its just one that suits your own fatalistic attitude toward the risks involved.

Unless you're saying this person is worth less than you, then the plan suited to them is indeed as good as the one suited to you. A few popular assumptions that aren't necessarily true: Living is always better than dying. Your actions have an effect on the outcome. You can do it. People should always do what they should. It matters.

Why do you call those things assumptions? That says more about you than the people you claim are assuming these things.

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Post by cbr »

mfukar wrote: post #128
ourmandave wrote: post #40

Nearly forty minutes passed before a second message went out: “There is no missile threat or danger to the State of Hawaii. ...“It was a mistake made during a standard procedure at the changeover of a shift, and an employee pushed the wrong button.” I've seen some shitty Admin Panels, but somebody "pushed the wrong button" and an end-of-your-world false alarm was going off for 40 minutes?! WTF?

What sort of procedure do you imagine is in place for a 'false-alarm' type of situation like this?

If the alarm is as easy to trigger as pushing a single button, then issuing an update that it was a mistake should be designed for. Ideally just a couple presses, something that can be done in under a minute.

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Post by newfoundglory »

IIAOPSW wrote: post #17

I'm currently living in Japan. So obviously I have a plan for nuclear war. First, I'm going to press send on the doomsday draft which is sitting in my e-mail. Second, I'm going to go to youtube and play "We all go together" by Tom Leher. Third, I got a bottle sitting in my desk that I'm going to pop open. Presumably I'll be in the office at the time so one final round with the coworkers. The people in this article se…

But if you get a nuclear war warning that isn’t real...I’m curious if there’s anything damaging in that doomsday email you have?

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by McKayDavis »

rymohr wrote: post #201
fosk wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming you can survive the initial blast, how do you plan to protect yourself and your family from radioactive dust for 7-10 days (assuming windows are broken by the blast - or by you).

I’m curious how long the fallout would actually be an issue here, assuming trades were blowing 10-15 knots as usual.

It definitely depends on a number of variable factors including the size and location of a detonation. Either way, the leeward side would definitely be a higher risk area.

Re: What It Felt Like in Hawaii When Warning of an In-Bound Missile Arrived

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Post by UweSchmidt »

laretluval wrote: post #127
macintux wrote: post #82

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why not? Until recently it was one of the few places North Korea could reasonably expect to reach.

What would NK have to gain by nuking Hawaii? It would cause the US to retaliate massively, while not doing serious damage to its military capabilities.

You think the US would actually retaliate against a limited nuclear attack in an isolated place with a massive nuclear counterattack? (I can see it in a cold war scenario against the USSR, with tanks moving into Europe and the world order at stake)

I think the US woudln't and, of course, shouldn't. The usual game-theoretical reasonings in this regard are misguided and shortsighted.

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