Just give the teens a break! Let them live, learn and play the way they want.
Teenagers now better behaved and less hedonistic but lonelier and more isolated
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#82Earlier quoted context omitted.
People also have been rejecting that since time immemorial, so the strength of your argument just barely suffices to eat itself.
That some people have been rejecting it since time immemorial doesn't mean those behaviours don't exist. What I'm disagreeing with is this: new doctrines of consumerism that is making us all willing to use each other (apparently) for our short-term jollies. It isn't the new doctrines of consumerism that are making us do this, it's human nature; we like to fuck. So your argument ... isn't one.
Re: Teenagers now better behaved and less hedonistic but lonelier and more isolated
#83Wow, what a lot of boring people we are going to create.
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#84Can someone explain why less hedonistic is seen as better?
That's the debate in the article body. Less hedonistic meaning they are having less sex and so fewer unintended and teenage pregnancies, less drinking and drugs and so less violence and anti-social behavior, better relations with the parents and in particular their fathers, and more pursuing further education. Basically every metric of bad behavior that used to be a cause of concern for 80s and 90s teenagers is acros…
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#85Could be because of many reasons. e.g: prior generations were exposed to tetraethyllead, which is known to make people aggressive.
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#86Indolent and conformist perhaps is another way to describe this. I fail to see how this a good thing. A young generation perpetuating pointless taboos imposed on them rather than making their own experiences frankly is a sad development.
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#87Earlier quoted context omitted.
Is there anything wrong with waiting to have sex with someone you're invested in? I've found those types of experiences to be worth it, long-term. It's interesting that some see that as naive--it's the opposite if anything. Easy sex is fun but it would seem hard to invest in anyone but myself.
Why would investing in someone but yourself require giving up sex with others? That dichotomy between the unattached bachelor and the loving monogamous spouse seems to be just another of those taboos.
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#88Can someone explain why less hedonistic is seen as better?
Suppose you have problems in your life, and you're suffering. You could drink alcohol or take opiates, and they might make you feel better for a while. But the effect wears off, and you're back in the same situation, except now maybe your problems are a bit worse, because the drugs made you sick, or made you do something you regret, or you become addicted, or you miss the feeling of them, or your tolerance has increa…
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#89This quote is hundreds of years old, often misattributed to Socrates, but applies perennially. It describes not values degrading, but changing. To people who value one thing, a younger generation valuing other things feels like degradation since other values seem worse, but there aren't that many human values. Eventually generations cycle through them all and repeat.
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#90I don't see many articles pointing it out so I think it's good seeing one that does.