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Did you sign Google's noncompete? Good, you're fired
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Re: Did you sign Google's noncompete? Good, you're fired
#22Non-competes don't stand up in court. Who would sign this type of agreement, though? I've signed non-competes before, but "I agree to provide a copy of this Agreement to any person or entities seeking to hire me before accepting employment with or engagement by any such person or entity." is insane.
I've never been so glad to not have taken a Google job.
Re: Did you sign Google's noncompete? Good, you're fired
#23Why are we linking to flamebait Valleywag? http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=160704
Because this is a legit story and prime argument as to why blanket bans are imperfect?
Re: Did you sign Google's noncompete? Good, you're fired
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
exactly. they're not laying off Google employees (or at least not many). they're laying off people they bought the rights to.
Those rights were never theirs to buy. This country banned slavery long ago.
Really? Maybe someone should take a closer look at EA.
Re: Did you sign Google's noncompete? Good, you're fired
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Doesn't matter. First thing you sign when you join a new employer is an agreement that says something like "I am not under any other company's non-compete". While this might not be enforceable, if you were a small company in a similar space, would you really risk hiring someone if you might get attacked by Google's lawyers?
Yes, I would if I were in the state of California. If you were small, google wouldn't notice anyways.
And what if you had two candidates that were of similar ability, and one of which has shown you his Google non-compete agreement?
Re: Did you sign Google's noncompete? Good, you're fired
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, I would if I were in the state of California. If you were small, google wouldn't notice anyways.
And what if you had two candidates that were of similar ability, and one of which has shown you his Google non-compete agreement?
The second is an idiot who doesn't know how to negotiate or use Google (to search for the thousands of citations to the precedent). Don't hire the guy.
News flash: big companies will try to screw you, even when it's against the law. If you do not resist, you are a chump, and I feel that hiring passive chumps can only lead to trouble.
Not nice, maybe, but it's worth understanding. When push comes to shove, you have to stand up for yourself.
Those that signed the NCA and then discarded it got themselves a free 2 months of severance. I applaud their canny maneuvering; Google is poorer for firing them.
Re: Did you sign Google's noncompete? Good, you're fired
#27damn you valleywag
Re: Did you sign Google's noncompete? Good, you're fired
#28never sign non-competes. just say no.
Re: Did you sign Google's noncompete? Good, you're fired
#29courts won't enforce these. this is retarded.
Doesn't matter. First thing you sign when you join a new employer is an agreement that says something like "I am not under any other company's non-compete". While this might not be enforceable, if you were a small company in a similar space, would you really risk hiring someone if you might get attacked by Google's lawyers?
Hmm, that's a great point I hadn't thought of before.
From an employer's perspective I can clearly see given 2 identical candidates why you might want to shy away from the one who has signed a non-compete with a company known for having alot of lawyers like Google or Microsoft.
Re: Did you sign Google's noncompete? Good, you're fired
#30Fortunately, unless they were promoted or given a bonus for signing the agreement, it's pointless:
_Provide a Benefit to the Employee_
Next, you must provide a benefit to the employee in exchange for his or her promise not to compete against you. Making a job offer contingent on signing a noncompete agreement probably satisfies this requirement, since the employee is receiving a benefit (a job) in exchange for the promise. It's more difficult to provide an existing employee with a benefit, but generally, coupling the agreement with a promotion or a raise will do the trick.