Earlier quoted context omitted.
Software contractors?
Isn't the UK a net importer of software contractors?
I don’t know, but if it’s exportable, it’s exportable.
Does Brexit end not with a bang but a whimper?
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Re: Does Brexit end not with a bang but a whimper?
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I thought London was supposed to be one of the major banking centres of Europe? So if the banks are fragile, the UK is just as exposed in that regards, or perhaps more exposed as it will no longer be (as?) able to ask the ECB for assistance?
The UK isn't in the Euro so the ECB doesn't really matter to the UK.
Noted. I kinda assumed ECB was for all EU states, not just for all Eurozone states.
Re: Does Brexit end not with a bang but a whimper?
#223Earlier quoted context omitted.
@kypro It's not 'racially preferenced'. The UK is a member of a club of nations with certain rules, which it seems to be ignorant of - such as the ability to restrict free movement within the rules of FM. The way the UK treats outside EU migrants is down to the hateful politics of the daily mail et al and has no basis in fact - look at Germany and the Blue Card for a contrasting example. FWIW, I voted remain (as a Co…
It's not racially preferenced in the same way voter ID, or Trump's immigration ban of "high risk" countries isn't racial preferenced. It's effect is a racially preferenced immigration system for not good reason. There are many talented people from non-EU countries which the UK doesn't take because of unskilled EU immigration taking preference.
Why do you believe that low-skilled workers prevent high-skilled workers from migrating to the UK? Surely it should be the other way around because the high-skilled workers would get well-paid jobs that would price low-skilled workers out of the UK’s dysfunctional housing market?
Re: Does Brexit end not with a bang but a whimper?
#224Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Tick here if you understand while in the EU the UK has effectively zero control over it's immigration and trade. - "its" not "it's" - the UK retains some control of immigration w.r.t EU citizens (some of which they chose not to enforce and it also allows UK citizens to avail of freedom of movement as well) and full control of the immigration of non-EU citizens, so your assertion is false - Brain drain is debatable,…
> the UK retains some control of immigration w.r.t EU citizens (some of which they chose not to enforce and it also allows UK citizens to avail of freedom of movement as well) and full control of the immigration of non-EU citizens, so your assertion is false As you probably know the control the UK does have over EU citizens is extremely extremely limit. They don't call it "open borders" for no reason believe it or no…
Schengen area is an open border (+), UK-France is not. UK has the right to eject EU citizens who can’t support themselves, but lacks the beurocracy to identify such people.
+ and even that has exceptions, I was passport-checked going from Italy into France but not France to Italy, I assume because of the state of emergency from the attack a few years ago.
Re: Does Brexit end not with a bang but a whimper?
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I alluded to a deadweight, or economic intertia, so yeah ... it's early days yet ... but it doesn't really matter because Brexit probably won't happen the way most people think it will ...
Dead weight losses occur in the case of distorting subsidies/tariffs or one side of the equation is a monopoly. I don't see the relevance to Brexit's effect on the job market.
Of course you don't, because you only know the term from reading the Wikipedia article.
Re: Does Brexit end not with a bang but a whimper?
#226Earlier quoted context omitted.
Okay my bad. Hard to separate truth from fiction with everything that comes across in the media these days.
Well it's not really surprising. People have been emigrating from Poland for a long time. This eventually has to show up in low unemployment numbers.
I thought that too, but when I looked at the numbers they're far from having the highest level of emigration [0] in Europe either, at 11.5% ...
Re: Does Brexit end not with a bang but a whimper?
#227Earlier quoted context omitted.
Dead weight losses occur in the case of distorting subsidies/tariffs or one side of the equation is a monopoly. I don't see the relevance to Brexit's effect on the job market.
Of course you don't, because you only know the term from reading the Wikipedia article.
To rephrase: it's completely irrelevant and I think you're now dimly aware of that.
This is likely why you did not ever attempt to explain its significance and responded with a facile insult when I alluded to its irrelevance.
Re: Does Brexit end not with a bang but a whimper?
#228Earlier quoted context omitted.
> the UK retains some control of immigration w.r.t EU citizens (some of which they chose not to enforce and it also allows UK citizens to avail of freedom of movement as well) and full control of the immigration of non-EU citizens, so your assertion is false As you probably know the control the UK does have over EU citizens is extremely extremely limit. They don't call it "open borders" for no reason believe it or no…
Schengen area is an open border (+), UK-France is not. UK has the right to eject EU citizens who can’t support themselves, but lacks the beurocracy to identify such people. + and even that has exceptions, I was passport-checked going from Italy into France but not France to Italy, I assume because of the state of emergency from the attack a few years ago.
> Schengen area is an open border (+), UK-France is not. UK has the right to eject EU citizens who can’t support themselves, but lacks the beurocracy to identify such people.
I understand this, but then the assumption is that this is a good immigration system. A nation shouldn't let anyone in who can get a job and support themselves. It's an awful immigration system which we have no control over and the majority of the public disagree with. I simply can't understand why some people fail to understand what a disgrace that is.
I'll also add that it undermines the UK democracy entirely. People who immigrate to the UK from the EU, or have family who did, vote very differently from native Brits. What's happening is people are coming into the UK, against the the public's wishes (and also without them having any political capacity to stop it) then voting against the UK public's wishes in their elections.
> + and even that has exceptions, I was passport-checked going from Italy into France but not France to Italy, I assume because of the state of emergency from the attack a few years ago.
It's almost like open borders isn't good for national security. Who'd of thought.
Re: Does Brexit end not with a bang but a whimper?
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The UK govt spends a lot of its time rubber stamping EU legislation, which is largely corporatist, not individualist. I don't have time to give this reply the attention it deserves, but consider that it is now illegal to sell your home made jam in your local charity shop, and it was almost made illegal to tinker with your own motor vehicle. Then there's the never ending torrent of health and safety legislation. These…
> EU legislation, which is largely corporatist, not individualist What does that actually mean? > now illegal to sell your home made jam in your local charity shop I googled for this, and the only reference I could find was Mail and Express articles, so I suspect it's not true. The EU fake British news debunking site has this to say: http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/in-a-jam-over-non-existe...
What does that actually mean?
High tariffs on imported food are intended to protect the farming industry. Laws banning DIY are intended to protect the trades. Laws promoting green energy (read: noxious diesel gases) are designed to provide a ready market for German car manufacturers.
If you're British then you'll know about HS2, the high speed rail network nobody wants and many are protesting against. Everyone seems to agree that it will be a waste of money but the govt are determined to go ahead with it anyway.
Presuming this has nothing to do with TEN-R [1], which I doubt, you would think that the British govt might want to spend British tax-payers' money on British workers to build the trains, to help the economy and stuff, right? Well maybe they do, but they are required by law to put the tender out to the whole of the EU, so British companies actually make up the minority of bidders for the contract [2].
I googled for this, and the only reference I could find
was Mail and Express articles, so I suspect it's not true.
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-European_high-speed_rail... [2] https://www.gov.uk/government/news/hs2-reveals-bidders-in-ra...
Re: Does Brexit end not with a bang but a whimper?
#230Earlier quoted context omitted.
The UK govt spends a lot of its time rubber stamping EU legislation, which is largely corporatist, not individualist. I don't have time to give this reply the attention it deserves, but consider that it is now illegal to sell your home made jam in your local charity shop, and it was almost made illegal to tinker with your own motor vehicle. Then there's the never ending torrent of health and safety legislation. These…
It's not illegal to 'sell your home made jam in your local charity shop' in many EU countries, so if it is in UK it has either nothing to do with the EU or is a rule misinterpreted by local legislation (which happens quite often). "EU legislation, which is largely corporatist, not individualist" sometimes it is, sometimes it isn't. But UK also wants to leave the jurisdiction of ECHR which is a very corporatist move.
I think you mean the ECJ. But either way, European courts aren't popular in the UK because they are able to override British law. Seems reasonable that the country that invented the concept of human rights might want to retain her jurisprudence.
As for the homemade jam, see above.