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Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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You don't. The current inflation trend is pure pseudoscience: https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7465534

Not true: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4155060/ I'm making a documentary about all of this stuff mentioned in the comments. Would like feedback: http://FoodLies.org or google "food lies film"

The article i posted specially attacks this. Inflammation is a symptom of many things including cancer, but isn't something you really aim to treat. And there is no good evidence that there is such a thing as an anti inflammatory diet.

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http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/old-cholesterol-warnings-steep...

The book cited in this article that so many claim exonerates fats has been thoroughly debunked. https://thescienceofnutrition.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/the-b...

That's a good read, thanks.

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I have pretty mild IBS symptoms, but I concur - exercising at the very least has helped regulate my gut. At least to the extent that I can live a normal life without having to be constantly aware of the nearest bathroom. Can’t recommend regular exercise enough to those experiencing similar issues. Running would be my recommendation. I wonder if the rhythm of exercise is partially responsible.

Can I ask for more details on how you are exercising - frequency, duration, any special tips? I have mild IBS-D but find that running sometimes seems to exacerbate my symptoms. I've found research pointing both ways on this.

Every other day approximately. Not too much running - 15 mins maybe. Then an hour of weight training.

The most important thing has been regulation. I stay away from foods I’ve recognized as being triggers. I was taking probiotics for a while. I was stressed, anxious. All contributing factors. Learning control has been a key for me.

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>I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. they may be similar physically, but they are not similar culturally.

Sorry can you expand on this a bit? I can’t tell if this is a reference/joke or you’re making a higher point that I’m just not picking up.

I think the parent is making the point that potatoes are in general often fried, consumed in more quantities and come with other unheathly things, whilst that is not typically the case with bananas.

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Olive or coconut oil typically. I go for things like kale, carrots, cauliflower, beets, sweet potatoes, okra, squash, asparagus, etc. It's really easy to make these taste great without much cooking skill. I always add a little salt, but otherwise I don't want to overpower the natural sweetness and flavor of these vegetables with anything else.

I use Avacado oil. It is said olive oil should not be used for high-heat cooking as it has low smoke point unlike avacado oil.

Extra virgin olive oil has a low smoke point, 320F. "Light" olive oil has a high smoke point, 460F.

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Here you go: https://examine.com/nutrition/is-saturated-fat-bad-for-me/ Actual studies linked within.

The conclusion from the very first review cited in your article ( https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20351774 ): These findings provide evidence that consuming PUFA in place of SFA reduces CHD events in RCTs. i.e. replacing saturated fats with unsaturated fats reduces your risk of cardiovascular disease, which was my original claim. From your article: Saturated fats do increase cholesterol levels relative to polyuns…

And then again: http://time.com/4291505/when-vegetable-oil-isnt-as-healthy-a... , links e.g. to http://www.bmj.com/content/353/bmj.i1246 which has the conclusion quoted below, which is in line with what ggp claimed about whether cholesterol is the cause or just a symptom.

""" Available evidence from randomized controlled trials shows that replacement of saturated fat in the diet with linoleic acid effectively lowers serum cholesterol but does not support the hypothesis that this translates to a lower risk of death from coronary heart disease or all causes. Findings from the Minnesota Coronary Experiment add to growing evidence that incomplete publication has contributed to overestimation of the benefits of replacing saturated fat with vegetable oils rich in linoleic acid. """

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I'm not alarmed because this is what I expected and planned to happen. I've been interested in physiology and nutrition for a few years and the most credible sources I've read all say the same thing. If you eat above your calorific output, you'll gain weight. If you also lift heavy and eat protein, a decent proportion of that weight will be muscle. This is especially true if you haven't lifted weights for some time,…

> If you eat above your calorific output, you'll gain weight. How does this account for the fact that lots of young people have difficulty gaining weight, no matter what they eat, until a certain age? Obviously not all young people, but lots even who play the Xbox or watch TV all day (i.e., little muscle mass and little physical activity). By the way, one thing that helps me keep my weight and appearance under contro…

> young people have difficulty gaining weight, no matter what they eat, until a certain age

They're not actually eating above their calorific output. This is either because they're not eating as much as they think they are, or because their calorific output happens to be high. The number of calories your body burns at rest can vary a lot, even between people with apparently similar bodies, and over time in the same body. It can even fluctuate a little in response to what you eat. So, whilst calorific intake is the most reliable single indicator of weight gain/loss, it's not necessarily useful unless you are continuously tracking it and noting the effect of small modifications. Calorie counting is psychologically difficult - albeit conceptually straightforward - which is part of the reason why many people turn to fad diets or come up with creative reasons why they don't believe in calories.

I doubt those skinny young people are rigorously counting their calories. They probably have no need or desire to. They're just eating "whatever they want", which for those people at that point in time happens to be roughly equal to their calorific output. If you took that "whatever they want" baseline and added a gallon of (whole) milk per day, you would absolutely see them start to gain weight.

> planking ... keeps my belly flat, even when I have some fat in the mid-section

Right, the shape of your belly - just like the rest of your body - is determined by the amount of muscle and the amount of fat. Decreasing fat and/or (to a degree) increasing muscle will lend your belly a flatter appearance. Planking will stress your abs and obliques, which will produce more muscle in those areas. A larger effect can be achieved by heavy compound movements, especially deadlifts, or isolation exercises like weighted situps. But if you don't lift heavy weights, which I'm guessing you don't, then planking will have a significant effect.

It's all about finding what works for you. What keeps you happy and sane in the long run. For you I suppose it's an equilibrium amount of exercise in order to keep your appearance roughly steady. For me, I love to hit targets and seeing my squat, deadlift and bench numbers go up over the year is very fulfilling. But whatever our goals our, knowing more about the subject at hand can only be a good thing.

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This is only tangentially related, but I've been practicing intermittent fasting for the past year, and I cannot recommend it enough -- it honestly changed my life. I feel better, I sleep more regularly, I have more energy, and my mind is more alert. I only eat from 12PM to 8PM. IF is also supposed to have an impact on your microbiome, reduce inflammation, and encourage autophagy (especially in the brain). PS: Please…

I've only eaten at 12 noon and 8pm for years, but just because that's lunch and dinner and I don't eat breakfast. I wasn't aware it could be called fasting.

Yeah, I can understand the difficulty behind something like Ramadan but 12 to 8 seems typical among those who skip breakfast. As someone who sits around mostly I never saw the need to eat so much.

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Can I ask for more details on how you are exercising - frequency, duration, any special tips? I have mild IBS-D but find that running sometimes seems to exacerbate my symptoms. I've found research pointing both ways on this.

Every other day approximately. Not too much running - 15 mins maybe. Then an hour of weight training. The most important thing has been regulation. I stay away from foods I’ve recognized as being triggers. I was taking probiotics for a while. I was stressed, anxious. All contributing factors. Learning control has been a key for me.

Very interesting, thank you! For a while I was running in the 30-60 minute range and my gut was getting more and more irritable over time. Your experience lines up with the research I found - that intense, prolonged or overly frequent exercise can worsen leaky gut / intestinal permeability symptoms, but regular exercise at a relatively low intensity may improve it. This makes me want to try reintroducing running into my routine.

Also very interesting that weight training doesn't trigger any symptoms. Can I ask - how hard do you push during weight training? Are you on a program like StrongLifts 5x5? I was running and then doing weights back-to-back and stopped both after I realised it was making things worse.

I have the same experience as you in terms of biggest improvements - spotting and cutting out trigger foods has been a huge help. I miss a lot of foods, but I like having a stable gut much more than I miss the foods...

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Has anyone done research on the probiotic industry? Are there brands that are considered safer, better, than the rest? I was reading about the vitamin pill industry, and that made me stare questionably at the probiotic bottle my wife buys -- where does it come from and is it safe? Two questions I have no answers for.

I had a physician recommend VSL3 (the powder form). I believe you can buy it w/o a prescription, and it's available at most Costcos. My understanding is the powder is more bio-available than any pill form.

Thanks!
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