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Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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3131s wrote: post #113
hycaria wrote: post #81

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I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. Everything that is flour based is refined, lacks fiber etc so I get the pasta and bread exclusion, but the potatoes one makes no sense imo. Overall in this thread, once again americans discover that they eat shit and simply cooking meals yourself from scratch (with limited fat of course) with no treats between meals makes yo…

> (with limited fat of course) This part, in my experience as someone who is muscular w/ a low body fat percentage, is not necessary. I actually find it easiest to get very, very lean ( I am American too and otherwise totally concur with what you've written. It's shocking how badly Americans eat, and how distant their diet is from what I consider the basic staple foods that humans should be eating. My dietary suggest…

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jackhack wrote: post #235
cageface wrote: post #176

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Saturated fat has a lot of downsides and usually comes along with extra cholesterol. Stick to unsaturated (i.e. vegetable) fats for the sake of your cardiovascular system.

The thinking on this has completely inverted in the past 5 years. The correlation between dietary consumption of cholesterol and serum (blood level) cholesterol is limited at best. Studies which showed a linear relationship were flawed. Put simply, it is now thought that cholesterol is a plaster over the arterial inflammation caused by sugars. It is a symptom, not a cause of plaques.

This is a snow job by the meat, egg and dairy industries. Don’t believe it. Downvotes should at least try to address the facts in this video.

https://youtu.be/vBtfzd43t8o

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Post by ha8o8le »

jnordwick wrote: post #289
dhimes wrote: post #282

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How do you measure inflammation?

You don't. The current inflation trend is pure pseudoscience: https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/7465534

Not true: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4155060/

I'm making a documentary about all of this stuff mentioned in the comments. Would like feedback:

http://FoodLies.org

or google "food lies film"

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Post by ha8o8le »

jnordwick wrote: post #276
DiThi wrote: post #233

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Saturated fat alone is not bad at all, it's actually very healthy. However combining it with carbs it's a bomb. If you don't believe me, try to find any study with negative effects of saturated fat where the diet doesn't also include >30% of calories as carbs.

Basically any diet beyond little studied, highly specialized diets that are often done short term by athletic types (eg keto, paleo). You just won't find good data with such a small, highly self selected population that includes an high amount of exercise.

These diets have been around for millions of years. I try to explain some of this on my site:

google "food lies film"

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Post by cageface »

rapind wrote: post #219
cageface wrote: post #176

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Saturated fat has a lot of downsides and usually comes along with extra cholesterol. Stick to unsaturated (i.e. vegetable) fats for the sake of your cardiovascular system.

This is under debate. A lot of recent research seems to be leaning the other way on cholesterol.

The meat and dairy industries are doing their best to obscure the truth on this issue. Postprandial cholesterol blood levels are a direct function of dietary cholesterol.

For example: https://nutritionfacts.org/video/how-do-we-know-that-cholest...

People want to hear they can eat all the eggs and butter and bacon they want but it’s just not true.

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Post by cageface »

rapind wrote: post #280
wskinner wrote: post #239

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Can you cite any of the research? Here is a decent overview, but I would love to learn more. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/nutritionsource/cholesterol/

http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/old-cholesterol-warnings-steep...

The book cited in this article that so many claim exonerates fats has been thoroughly debunked.

https://thescienceofnutrition.wordpress.com/2014/08/10/the-b...

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Post by GoToRO »

agumonkey wrote: post #93
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

Same experience here, sugar shifts your taste calibration up. You become attracted to high intensity, and blind in a way, to anything of smaller "dynamics". When I cut sugar, I started to feel tastes again, in mundane things like lettuce, carrots, tomatos; felt like a cool breeze of various sensations. None were intense or satisfying in themselves, but the whole thing felt good enough, surprising, and more importantl…

This is so true. The strategy that I have to not eat sugar is to not buy it. Because if I have anything sweet in the home, that apple will rot on the table.

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Post by sn9 »

cageface wrote: post #292
jackhack wrote: post #235

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The thinking on this has completely inverted in the past 5 years. The correlation between dietary consumption of cholesterol and serum (blood level) cholesterol is limited at best. Studies which showed a linear relationship were flawed. Put simply, it is now thought that cholesterol is a plaster over the arterial inflammation caused by sugars. It is a symptom, not a cause of plaques.

This is a snow job by the meat, egg and dairy industries. Don’t believe it. Downvotes should at least try to address the facts in this video. https://youtu.be/vBtfzd43t8o

Here you go: https://examine.com/nutrition/is-saturated-fat-bad-for-me/

Actual studies linked within.

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Post by ThomPete »

astura wrote: post #231
ThomPete wrote: post #224

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I also eat carbs I just stay away from them most of the time. That sounds like your mother-in-law if she eats random.

No, absolutely not, I literally said "she still eats very high carb." Her diet does not restrict or limit carbs at all and she eats plenty of them. It's pretty silly to assume everyone's diet is low carb by default. I believe she eats potatoes at every meal or at least almost every meal and she also eats plenty of white rice. Also fruit juice is on her "good" list. Though she claims she "doesn't eat sugar." She claim…

So are you saying she eat high carb and random or are you saying she eats random? Not sure I understand your point.

Carbs are proven to make most people fatter. There are people with high metabolism who can eat anything but most people cannot eat too many carbs without gaining weight.

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Post by cageface »

sn9 wrote: post #298
cageface wrote: post #292

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This is a snow job by the meat, egg and dairy industries. Don’t believe it. Downvotes should at least try to address the facts in this video. https://youtu.be/vBtfzd43t8o

Here you go: https://examine.com/nutrition/is-saturated-fat-bad-for-me/ Actual studies linked within.

The conclusion from the very first review cited in your article (https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20351774):

These findings provide evidence that consuming PUFA in place of SFA reduces CHD events in RCTs.

i.e. replacing saturated fats with unsaturated fats reduces your risk of cardiovascular disease, which was my original claim.

From your article:

Saturated fats do increase cholesterol levels relative to polyunsaturated fats.

You need some fat in your diet, but the overwhelming evidence is that you're better off getting it from unsaturated (plant-based) sources.

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