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Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Re: Exercise Alters Our Microbiome

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Post by pricetag »

bluntfang wrote: post #189
hycaria wrote: post #81

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I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. Everything that is flour based is refined, lacks fiber etc so I get the pasta and bread exclusion, but the potatoes one makes no sense imo. Overall in this thread, once again americans discover that they eat shit and simply cooking meals yourself from scratch (with limited fat of course) with no treats between meals makes yo…

>I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. they may be similar physically, but they are not similar culturally.

Sorry can you expand on this a bit? I can’t tell if this is a reference/joke or you’re making a higher point that I’m just not picking up.

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Post by agumonkey »

dcdanko wrote: post #171
yjftsjthsd-h wrote: post #145

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Oh, is this going to be like "X changes your brain"? Where it turns out that doing literally anything changes your brain because it's designed to optimize against absolutely any environment.

Even the composition of your microbiome itself can alter your brain chemistry (actually, it's usually called the gut brain axis). The study here used fecal transplant from lean to obese mice as well as a less invasive test; so it really does seems like a meaningful distinction.

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Post by matte_black »

TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #153
3131s wrote: post #113

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> (with limited fat of course) This part, in my experience as someone who is muscular w/ a low body fat percentage, is not necessary. I actually find it easiest to get very, very lean ( I am American too and otherwise totally concur with what you've written. It's shocking how badly Americans eat, and how distant their diet is from what I consider the basic staple foods that humans should be eating. My dietary suggest…

What source of fat do you use? I have trouble increasing my fat intake without frying everything, at which point it becomes a lot harder for me to track my intake.

You actually need healthy fats to gain muscle, I require 44g a day. Before I knew this I used to focus only on protein and carbs and wondered why I wasn’t gaining as much as I should be.

It is very easy to increase fat intake. I get it mostly from olive oil and peanut butter. A serving of each is 14g.

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Post by erkkie »

meuk wrote: post #158
sillysaurus3 wrote: post #6

I dropped all forms of sugar and corn syrup a few months ago. I was never a health nut. Quite the opposite. It's incredible how much your physiology alters just from that. Water tastes good now. I used to drink water with crystal light, because it was so bland. Shed 20lbs without even exercising. I eat bananas, apples, peanut butter and chicken. Learned to cook a few things. You sort of have to, if you want to avoid…

I object to pointing to 'added sugars' as the bad guys. Your body processes added sugar and natural sugar in the same way. Fruits contain vitamins, but they are also high in sugar. So the amazing changes people report might just as well be obtained by taking vitamin pills and more fibers. I'm not saying that a better diet doesn't make you feel better, just that 'no added sugar' is just a rule of thumb. 'Natural sugar…

While technically correct, you're missing what matters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glycemic_index

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Post by moccachino »

andreime wrote: post #166
prepend wrote: post #150

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58% of adult Europeans are overweight with 23% obese. These rates are much better than the US, but it seems like Europe hasn’t yet figured out the whole healthy diet issue.

I am considered overweight because a doctor calculated my BMI and said I'm two kilos over where I should be. BMI is a the ratio between weight and height. I think it's kind of stupid but it got me labeled as overweight.

It is my understanding that BMI is pretty much useless for the individual to know, but it is a valuable aggregate statistic. So it makes sense for the doctor to record your BMI for the national database, but you obviously have much better information and metrics to use on yourself.

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Post by parthdesai »

3131s wrote: post #163
TheAdamAndChe wrote: post #153

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What source of fat do you use? I have trouble increasing my fat intake without frying everything, at which point it becomes a lot harder for me to track my intake.

Olive or coconut oil typically. I go for things like kale, carrots, cauliflower, beets, sweet potatoes, okra, squash, asparagus, etc. It's really easy to make these taste great without much cooking skill. I always add a little salt, but otherwise I don't want to overpower the natural sweetness and flavor of these vegetables with anything else.

Muscular with 7-8% body fat (means you are into bodybuilding) and don't mention broccoli? Something doesn't add up :P

I joke, but i do agree with what you have said.

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anonu wrote: post #168
hycaria wrote: post #81

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I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. Everything that is flour based is refined, lacks fiber etc so I get the pasta and bread exclusion, but the potatoes one makes no sense imo. Overall in this thread, once again americans discover that they eat shit and simply cooking meals yourself from scratch (with limited fat of course) with no treats between meals makes yo…

Diet guidance in America has been co-opted by capitalistic food companies who push their processed junk our way - going on for decades now. The government is complicit of course. Let's not forget the laughable food pyramid [1] which adorned the walls of every school in the US for most of the 90s and undoubtedly created much confusion about how to eat (ie: fat bad, carbs good) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_py…

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Post by FullMtlAlcoholc »

anonu wrote: post #168
hycaria wrote: post #81

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I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. Everything that is flour based is refined, lacks fiber etc so I get the pasta and bread exclusion, but the potatoes one makes no sense imo. Overall in this thread, once again americans discover that they eat shit and simply cooking meals yourself from scratch (with limited fat of course) with no treats between meals makes yo…

Diet guidance in America has been co-opted by capitalistic food companies who push their processed junk our way - going on for decades now. The government is complicit of course. Let's not forget the laughable food pyramid [1] which adorned the walls of every school in the US for most of the 90s and undoubtedly created much confusion about how to eat (ie: fat bad, carbs good) [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_py…

If I'm not mistaken, I believe I saw ketchup on the food pyramid in elementary school in the 1980's. :(

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Post by knicholes »

tudorw wrote: post #100
hycaria wrote: post #81

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I don't get why you would exclude potatoes and eat bananas. They are very very similar foods. Everything that is flour based is refined, lacks fiber etc so I get the pasta and bread exclusion, but the potatoes one makes no sense imo. Overall in this thread, once again americans discover that they eat shit and simply cooking meals yourself from scratch (with limited fat of course) with no treats between meals makes yo…

Is nutrition and cooking / domestic skills part of the American school curriculum or widely taught ?

Here in Utah's public schools, we have to take TLC, which is cooking/sewing.

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #184
Broken_Hippo wrote: post #144

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It isn't really unhealthy as a part of your overall diet, but that peanut butter is tricky. Peanut butter lends itself to overeating - a serving size is only 2 tablespoons. About the size of a ping-pong ball. This isn't consistent with the ways most of us eat the stuff. Not to mention that it is just packed with calories. The combination makes it really easy to overeat. Peanuts are a slightly easier option to control…

How do most people eat peanut butter? I like it spread on oatcakes - it's just ground peanuts, so it's like eating a handful of unsalted, unsweetened nuts. USAmericans have a confection confusingly also called "peanut butter" that is high in sugar and salt, sadly most UK supermarkets now only stock the confection and not the nut-butter.

Americans eat both - the sugar/salt laden one all the way to slightly crunchy natural peanut butter. Most folks grew up with the processed stuff that doesn't separate when sitting on the shelf, though (not all natural).

But more to your question: Most folks spread it on fruit, some veggies, or on a sandwich, much thicker than butter or cream cheese. Too little peanut butter makes for a dry sandwich, especially if you aren't eating jelly along with it. Even when you are eating pure nut butter, it is easier to eat a lot of it. It is similar to someone drinking fruit juice or a smoothie (blended fruit only) can consume many calories in a sitting more easily than one would do with whole fruit. The body perceives it a bit differently with less chewing and whatnot.

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