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Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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It's a waste of money and time. What will they really have achieved from this study? "Societal unease", what does that even mean? They never even addressed the issue at all in the article from what I read.

It will no doubt be another biased study distracting us from something else we should be investing our time and monies on.

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

#23
post #20

This almost feels like a virtue signaling PR piece.

I have yet to see a use of "virtue signaling" that usefully distinguishes it from "believing that certain things are good and certain things are bad, and publicly saying as much, and advocating for a society that supports the good things and not the bad things," something that every generation in humanity has considered essential (and something that has traditionally been a thing conservatives have accused liberals o…

I suspect “virtue signaling” implies shallowness or insincerity, and that one is stating a position for affiliation instead of advocacy.

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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1950's Can we have a study of Comic Book addiction in Children. 1960's Can we have a study of Television addiction in Children. 1970's Can we have a study of Dungeons and Dragons addiction in children 1980's Can we have a study of Console game addiction in Children. 1990's Can we have a study of Computer game addiction in Children. 2000's Can we have a study of Internet addiction in Children. 2010's Can we have a stu…

I agree with this guy.

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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post #20

This almost feels like a virtue signaling PR piece.

I have yet to see a use of "virtue signaling" that usefully distinguishes it from "believing that certain things are good and certain things are bad, and publicly saying as much, and advocating for a society that supports the good things and not the bad things," something that every generation in humanity has considered essential (and something that has traditionally been a thing conservatives have accused liberals o…

Virtue signaling is used when someone (in this case Apple) is just trying to _look_ like they care. As the primary drivers of iPhone addiction, it is easy to assume that they are only doing this study as PR

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

#27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've had a couple iPhones and now currently use Android, but I never noticed this in myself. Can you give a little bit more detail?

I’ve seen kids ask silly questions to Siri and having a ball getting silly answers back. Is G-now any fun?

I think this is a super silly debate, but yes, Google Now is tons of fun. It will tell stories to you (way more than Siri knows), it will play games with you (way more games than Siri can play), it will do all kinds of unexpected and fun, nearly-natural things that are not just search.

Siri's answers are monotonous and boring compared to Google's.

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

#29
I think it's worth taking a look at the parental controls that Nintendo put in for the Switch. They have a video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03bAayBtcb0

I think it's worth watching, if for no other reason than to see Bowser & Bowser Jr..

iOS app link: https://itunes.apple.com/us/app/id1190074407 Play store link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nintendo.z...

For me, the only annoyance is that the controls apply to the entire console, not to individual users of the console. But, that makes sense as things are today, since I don't think there's any way to authenticate individual users every time someone wants to use the console. Also, that may conflict with the way that games stay "running" most of the time, even when you come back to the console later.

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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1950's Can we have a study of Comic Book addiction in Children. 1960's Can we have a study of Television addiction in Children. 1970's Can we have a study of Dungeons and Dragons addiction in children 1980's Can we have a study of Console game addiction in Children. 1990's Can we have a study of Computer game addiction in Children. 2000's Can we have a study of Internet addiction in Children. 2010's Can we have a stu…

Sorry, would vouch but looks like I've lost the ability. This is a valid opinion, backed by citing decades of various pointless moral panics, and should not have been flagged.

Why is scientific inquiry bad? It was certainly warranted for television, and the deregulation of children's telvision in the US is widely regarded as a mistake.

If there is no evidence (as for example, there is no evidence of anytbing more than a small group of people causing a brief TV panic about D&D, a remarkable preview of Facebook-like credulitiy culture?), then intentional reflection on the impact of the products we make on society is a rational and reasonable precaution.

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