Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children • Hacker News Board

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Post by innagadadavida » Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 2:12 AM UTC

nicolashahn wrote: post #5

alphonsegaston wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I suppose its possible to argue that they are by virtue of the superiority of their UI design and a more robust app ecosystem. In my own experience, I find myself far more impulsive about phone use on an iPhone than when I was using android devices.

I've had a couple iPhones and now currently use Android, but I never noticed this in myself. Can you give a little bit more detail?

I’ve seen kids ask silly questions to Siri and having a ball getting silly answers back. Is G-now any fun?

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Post by snakeboy » Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 2:13 AM UTC

aresant wrote: post #4

Could we start with conclusive studies about impact of radiation on children & adult's soft tissue ?

For the sake of time, scientists generally prefer to study questions that can't be immediately answered with basic physics.

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 2:13 AM UTC

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Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Post by seltzered_ » Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 2:15 AM UTC

Somewhat related, if you want to see some thoughts on designing computing experiences to involve logging intentions / distractions better, check out Joel Edelman's talk "Is Anything Worth Maximizing" (2016) : http://nxhx.org/maximizing/

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Post by exhilaration » Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 2:16 AM UTC

aresant wrote: post #4

Could we start with conclusive studies about impact of radiation on children & adult's soft tissue ?

Already done, Google CEFALO: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/21795665/

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Post by zitterbewegung » Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 2:16 AM UTC

This almost feels like a virtue signaling PR piece.

Re: Apple shareholders push for study of phone addiction in children

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Post by kosmet » Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 2:16 AM UTC

rayuela wrote: post #2

This seems like a weird request. Are iPhones supposed to be more addictive than Android phones or something?

Probably because Apple is a hardware company and Google (read Android) is an advertising company. Stopping addiction is more harmful to Google than Apple. Hence it can improve their market share.

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Post by CamperBob2 » Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 2:20 AM UTC

dragonsky67 wrote: post #10

1950's Can we have a study of Comic Book addiction in Children. 1960's Can we have a study of Television addiction in Children. 1970's Can we have a study of Dungeons and Dragons addiction in children 1980's Can we have a study of Console game addiction in Children. 1990's Can we have a study of Computer game addiction in Children. 2000's Can we have a study of Internet addiction in Children. 2010's Can we have a stu…

Sorry, would vouch but looks like I've lost the ability.

This is a valid opinion, backed by citing decades of various pointless moral panics, and should not have been flagged.

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Post by CaliforniaKarl » Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 2:21 AM UTC

The letter in question is here: https://thinkdifferentlyaboutkids.com

Note that, when you first go there, a "Terma & Conditions" popup appears once the page finishes loading. But, I think that requires JavaScript in order to trigger. Also, at least in Safari, reader mode was able to show the letter's contents without having to click through (or around) the T&C popup.

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Post by geofft » Mon, Jan 08, 2018, 2:22 AM UTC

zitterbewegung wrote: post #16

This almost feels like a virtue signaling PR piece.

I have yet to see a use of "virtue signaling" that usefully distinguishes it from "believing that certain things are good and certain things are bad, and publicly saying as much, and advocating for a society that supports the good things and not the bad things," something that every generation in humanity has considered essential (and something that has traditionally been a thing conservatives have accused liberals of not doing, incidentally).