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China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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Post by jdietrich »

probablybroken wrote: post #31
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #25

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The apartment thing...it’s very rare. Most likely to remind you to register at the PSB, I was always late and warned a few times, they never tried to fine me or anything. They aren’t really “checking” on you, honestly I’ve had worse experiences in Switzerland than China where they really do check on you (like the television tax guy entering my apartment to check that I really didn’t have a TV!). Beijing was actually…

Television licencing property checks are normal in the UK as well - I've had a few inspectors demand access to my home to verify that I wasn't watching TV illegally. For a long time there used to be "TV detector vans" that would drive around areas supposedly detecting TVs in use in unlicensed properties - I believe it was ( still is? ) illegal to publish any information surrounding the efficacy of these vehicles ( Ob…

> Obviously because they don't work

In the days of analogue TV, they almost certainly did. Analogue CRT televisions put out a tremendous amount of spurious RF. The intermediate frequency from the receiver's local oscillator was easily detected from some distance, even with inexpensive amateur equipment. With more sophisticated equipment, it wouldn't be difficult to see exactly what was on the screen using Van Eck phreaking. With modern technology, you could build a working TV detector bicycle using nothing more than an Android tablet, an RTL-SDR stick and a home-made yagi.

I think that the secrecy was about how often TV detection technology was actually used. The BBC research department could have knocked together a working TV detector van in a spare afternoon, but it would have been prohibitively expensive to operate. Why send out two skilled broadcast engineers in a van full of equipment, when an empty van being driven by a debt collector will do the job?

Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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Post by mc32 »

maxerickson wrote: post #33
ghostcluster wrote: post #28

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Anyone living in the West who looks down on certain US politicians for their anti-immigrant sentiments but is fine with China's state enforced ethnic nationalism might want to stop and think deeply as to why. It's essentially impossible for a Westerner to gain anything more than a temporary visa, even if they marry a Chinese citizen.

Do you think living in the West...is fine with China's state enforced ethnic nationalism is a big group of people?

I'll just point you to the Assange phenomenon. When Assange was an agent (provided a platform) bringing light to the consequences of W's and Obama's wars in the middle east, he was a hero.

Then, one day he also became conduit to information which lead to the political death of an anointed successor to the Obama presidency and he became a traitor, a misogynist, an enemy most foul -a Russian agent, in their eyes.

So, yeah. Many people like China when it's expedient, and will forgive those little sins. You know balance against hegemony, economic rival, bearers of Mao's torch, the divinity of marginalized peasants who stick it to urban elites, etc.

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Post by Nullabillity »

client4 wrote: post #41
strebler wrote: post #13

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I've lived and done a fair amount of business there. The car thing is true. I would say people there care a lot more about their immediate network of friends / family and a lot less about anyone else. It's very safe to live there, but at the same time everyone's trying to take advantage of everyone else - literal and metaphorical pickpockets are everywhere. The inherent lack of trust makes workplace environments real…

When you go back, using Google Fi and hotspotting has been a fantastic experience.

Fi is so hilariously overpriced that it's hard to imagine anyone seriously buying into it. Is $20 + $10/GB actually the cheapest available.. anywhere?

Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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Post by jimnotgym »

mc32 wrote: post #52
maxerickson wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think living in the West...is fine with China's state enforced ethnic nationalism is a big group of people?

I'll just point you to the Assange phenomenon. When Assange was an agent (provided a platform) bringing light to the consequences of W's and Obama's wars in the middle east, he was a hero. Then, one day he also became conduit to information which lead to the political death of an anointed successor to the Obama presidency and he became a traitor, a misogynist, an enemy most foul -a Russian agent, in their eyes. So, y…

> Then, one day he also became conduit to information which lead to the political death of an anointed successor to the Obama presidency and he became a traitor, a misogynist, an enemy most foul.

I think Assange was painted as a mysogynist in the global press right back in 2010 when details of his extradition request for a suspected rape came out. That was early in the Obama administration. I see your point but I think the chronology is off. Perhaps those people that are closer to Assange and know him better would know if he should have been criticised as a mysogynist even earlier?

I think a better way to criticise China is to review the recent release of documents about Tiananmen Square.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-china-42465516

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Post by strebler »

anthonyleecook wrote: post #30
strebler wrote: post #13

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I've lived and done a fair amount of business there. The car thing is true. I would say people there care a lot more about their immediate network of friends / family and a lot less about anyone else. It's very safe to live there, but at the same time everyone's trying to take advantage of everyone else - literal and metaphorical pickpockets are everywhere. The inherent lack of trust makes workplace environments real…

yup, I've heard many stories of expats turning around and leave the second they found the internet frustrating, which is strange that they didn't do their homework before coming. Also, the food I found ok; lack of variety (hot pot, shaokao, dumpling, repeat), and no good international cuisines. You can also get safer Chinese food in Taiwan or Los Angeles. As for weather, it's usually made worse by pollution. And rece…

The internet was actually fine for a long time (just proxy over SSH for everything). But they randomly "turn up the dials" on the firewall to block SSH and so you'll get intermittent outages. It's gotten progressively worse. We had a bunch of servers outside of China and I would need to basically round robin them to keep online.

I was actually somehow impressed by how sophisticated the firewall became over time from a pure technology point of view. Super annoying though.

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Post by maxerickson »

mc32 wrote: post #52
maxerickson wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think living in the West...is fine with China's state enforced ethnic nationalism is a big group of people?

I'll just point you to the Assange phenomenon. When Assange was an agent (provided a platform) bringing light to the consequences of W's and Obama's wars in the middle east, he was a hero. Then, one day he also became conduit to information which lead to the political death of an anointed successor to the Obama presidency and he became a traitor, a misogynist, an enemy most foul -a Russian agent, in their eyes. So, y…

I don't really get your example. There were plenty of people that were critical of Assange well before 2016 and plenty of people that continue to praise him today.

So I have trouble with Julian->Large numbers of China apologists, it just isn't very sound logic.

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Post by dragonwriter »

maxerickson wrote: post #56
mc32 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll just point you to the Assange phenomenon. When Assange was an agent (provided a platform) bringing light to the consequences of W's and Obama's wars in the middle east, he was a hero. Then, one day he also became conduit to information which lead to the political death of an anointed successor to the Obama presidency and he became a traitor, a misogynist, an enemy most foul -a Russian agent, in their eyes. So, y…

I don't really get your example. There were plenty of people that were critical of Assange well before 2016 and plenty of people that continue to praise him today. So I have trouble with Julian->Large numbers of China apologists, it just isn't very sound logic.

> There were plenty of people that were critical of Assange well before 2016 and plenty of people that continue to praise him today.

A lot for the people that continue to praise him today are people that were critical of him before 2016 (and vice versa.)

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Post by mc32 »

maxerickson wrote: post #56
mc32 wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll just point you to the Assange phenomenon. When Assange was an agent (provided a platform) bringing light to the consequences of W's and Obama's wars in the middle east, he was a hero. Then, one day he also became conduit to information which lead to the political death of an anointed successor to the Obama presidency and he became a traitor, a misogynist, an enemy most foul -a Russian agent, in their eyes. So, y…

I don't really get your example. There were plenty of people that were critical of Assange well before 2016 and plenty of people that continue to praise him today. So I have trouble with Julian->Large numbers of China apologists, it just isn't very sound logic.

People who praised him yesterday are not the people praising him today, rather they now denounce him, despite his remaining steadfast and resolute. The opposite is also the case, people denouncing him anti American now see him as an ally.

It's to exemplify that people will ignore what you see as incongruent, if it does not align with their motives.

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Post by AFNobody »

mc32 wrote: post #52
maxerickson wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you think living in the West...is fine with China's state enforced ethnic nationalism is a big group of people?

I'll just point you to the Assange phenomenon. When Assange was an agent (provided a platform) bringing light to the consequences of W's and Obama's wars in the middle east, he was a hero. Then, one day he also became conduit to information which lead to the political death of an anointed successor to the Obama presidency and he became a traitor, a misogynist, an enemy most foul -a Russian agent, in their eyes. So, y…

That may be the mainstream view but he was considered a Russian tool since 2012 when he started working with RT and had known Russian "friends" working with him at WikiLeaks.

I was never a fan of Assange, only the people who took on the personal risk to leak.

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