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China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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Hearing all the negative stuff about China recently, like the online censorship, dictatorship, stories about people not caring about human life, like hearing it's common that if you accidentally drive over people, many will backup to finish the job so they wont' have to pay the insurance for rest of the life and seeings stories like babies on the streets and nobody caring, why would anyone want to work in China? Are…

I've lived and done a fair amount of business there. The car thing is true. I would say people there care a lot more about their immediate network of friends / family and a lot less about anyone else. It's very safe to live there, but at the same time everyone's trying to take advantage of everyone else - literal and metaphorical pickpockets are everywhere. The inherent lack of trust makes workplace environments real…

When you go back, using Google Fi and hotspotting has been a fantastic experience.

Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The apartment thing...it’s very rare. Most likely to remind you to register at the PSB, I was always late and warned a few times, they never tried to fine me or anything. They aren’t really “checking” on you, honestly I’ve had worse experiences in Switzerland than China where they really do check on you (like the television tax guy entering my apartment to check that I really didn’t have a TV!). Beijing was actually…

Television licencing property checks are normal in the UK as well - I've had a few inspectors demand access to my home to verify that I wasn't watching TV illegally. For a long time there used to be "TV detector vans" that would drive around areas supposedly detecting TVs in use in unlicensed properties - I believe it was ( still is? ) illegal to publish any information surrounding the efficacy of these vehicles ( Ob…

> I've had a few inspectors demand access to my home to verify that I wasn't watching TV illegally

Ask to see their warrant or tell them to get lost. They have no power of entry, possibly unless accompanied by the po po (in which case ask the same question and "Am I legally obliged to comply with this officer?", while videoing them and their response).

Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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What they don't tell you is that two of those ten years will be spent in a secret gulag for writing a wechat private message to your friend about how you dont like the great firewall of china. Thanks, but I'll pass.

You could also just... not send WeChat private messages to your friend about how you don't like the great firewall of China.

I mean, I don't support the Firewall in the slightest, but I think the kind person who wants to send messages like that is exactly who they want to keep out by keeping brutal punishments for dissident behavior.

I've always felt if you go to a country you should respect it's laws, and if you feel you'll be unable to respect it's laws due to moral conflict you shouldn't go to the country.

And it's not like you should want to benefit from a country (or let a country benefit from you!) that has laws you're so opposed to that you'd be willing to risk severe punishment to comment on them...

Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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post #18

What they don't tell you is that two of those ten years will be spent in a secret gulag for writing a wechat private message to your friend about how you dont like the great firewall of china. Thanks, but I'll pass.

Inflammatory troll commenter spotted...

Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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post #42

I have a 10 year visa to China from the United States. It's just a tourist visa though. I think it's a special agreement between the two countries.

You can only stay for ninety days at a time on a tourist visa (the point of which is to prevent you from taking a job and sticking around)

Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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post #18

What they don't tell you is that two of those ten years will be spent in a secret gulag for writing a wechat private message to your friend about how you dont like the great firewall of china. Thanks, but I'll pass.

You could also just... not send WeChat private messages to your friend about how you don't like the great firewall of China. I mean, I don't support the Firewall in the slightest, but I think the kind person who wants to send messages like that is exactly who they want to keep out by keeping brutal punishments for dissident behavior. I've always felt if you go to a country you should respect it's laws, and if you fee…

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Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The apartment thing...it’s very rare. Most likely to remind you to register at the PSB, I was always late and warned a few times, they never tried to fine me or anything. They aren’t really “checking” on you, honestly I’ve had worse experiences in Switzerland than China where they really do check on you (like the television tax guy entering my apartment to check that I really didn’t have a TV!). Beijing was actually…

Wow, I hadn't considered that the Beijing police would be too fearful to inadvertently pull over a high ranking party member to conduct their jobs properly.

Meanwhile, for contrast regarding fear of politicians: In my London borough, my local ex Member of Parliament a few years back praised police after they used anti-terror powers to stop him while he was taking pictures of a bike path...

Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The apartment thing...it’s very rare. Most likely to remind you to register at the PSB, I was always late and warned a few times, they never tried to fine me or anything. They aren’t really “checking” on you, honestly I’ve had worse experiences in Switzerland than China where they really do check on you (like the television tax guy entering my apartment to check that I really didn’t have a TV!). Beijing was actually…

Television licencing property checks are normal in the UK as well - I've had a few inspectors demand access to my home to verify that I wasn't watching TV illegally. For a long time there used to be "TV detector vans" that would drive around areas supposedly detecting TVs in use in unlicensed properties - I believe it was ( still is? ) illegal to publish any information surrounding the efficacy of these vehicles ( Ob…

Fortunately you have no obligation to allow TV inspectors access to your property and you can call the police on them if they continue to harass you.

Re: China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'

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post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Television licencing property checks are normal in the UK as well - I've had a few inspectors demand access to my home to verify that I wasn't watching TV illegally. For a long time there used to be "TV detector vans" that would drive around areas supposedly detecting TVs in use in unlicensed properties - I believe it was ( still is? ) illegal to publish any information surrounding the efficacy of these vehicles ( Ob…

> I've had a few inspectors demand access to my home to verify that I wasn't watching TV illegally Ask to see their warrant or tell them to get lost. They have no power of entry, possibly unless accompanied by the po po (in which case ask the same question and "Am I legally obliged to comply with this officer?", while videoing them and their response).

Confirmation: http://www.tvlicensing.co.uk/about/foi-administering-the-lic...

> Enquiry officers do not have any legal powers to enter your home without a search warrant granted by a magistrate (or sheriff in Scotland). > You have no obligation to grant entry to an enquiry officer if you don’t wish to do so.

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