How does this work along with their plan to limit city population?
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/26/chinas-shangha...
China offers 10-year visas to 'high end talent'
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#12Hearing all the negative stuff about China recently, like the online censorship, dictatorship, stories about people not caring about human life, like hearing it's common that if you accidentally drive over people, many will backup to finish the job so they wont' have to pay the insurance for rest of the life and seeings stories like babies on the streets and nobody caring, why would anyone want to work in China? Are…
I can recommend a YouTube channel from a couple Westerners who have lived in China for years and share their experiences about it, https://www.youtube.com/advchina -- the slightly older of whom is http://youtube.com/serpentza who lives in Shenzhen.
They tackle a lot of the issues you bring up. China is very protective of their immigration, and unlike the US, it's impossible to get the equivalent of a Green Card or become a citizen at all, even if you marry a Chinese person, which they both have done. You constantly have to jump through hoops to keep a current Visa, and as a foreigner you must report in person to the nearest police station each month to be monitored, or face deportation.
The police will also sometimes randomly come to your apartment unannounced, and come in to check on you.
There exists a huge range of living situations that span from the more western first tier cities like Shanghai and Shenzhen, that are very organized, with a police presence that cuts down on lawless driving, unlicensed food vendors, etc, to the more rural areas where the bulk of the population still lives.
Anyway, they both cover a lot of the issues you raise, and have a ton of good videos that give you a sense of what contemporary life is like there.
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#13Hearing all the negative stuff about China recently, like the online censorship, dictatorship, stories about people not caring about human life, like hearing it's common that if you accidentally drive over people, many will backup to finish the job so they wont' have to pay the insurance for rest of the life and seeings stories like babies on the streets and nobody caring, why would anyone want to work in China? Are…
I've lived and done a fair amount of business there. The car thing is true. I would say people there care a lot more about their immediate network of friends / family and a lot less about anyone else. It's very safe to live there, but at the same time everyone's trying to take advantage of everyone else - literal and metaphorical pickpockets are everywhere.
The inherent lack of trust makes workplace environments really difficult. Everyone's looking out for number one (themselves), to the point of damaging their own company for personal gain. You have no clue how hard it is to build a software dev team when ANY of the developers will happily copy the source code they have access to onto a thumbdrive and sell it to your top competitor for a modest payday. I highly respect anyone who builds a software team successfully in China, such a headache.
Frankly, the internet censorship was the deal breaker for me. No Google, gmail, facebook, twitter, news, etc, is just too much to bear.
But the food was really good, good weather and foreigners are treated like minor celebrities (everyone is really really friendly), so we don't experience real China like everyone else.
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#14Hearing all the negative stuff about China recently, like the online censorship, dictatorship, stories about people not caring about human life, like hearing it's common that if you accidentally drive over people, many will backup to finish the job so they wont' have to pay the insurance for rest of the life and seeings stories like babies on the streets and nobody caring, why would anyone want to work in China? Are…
It's pretty true, speaking from experience. China is a pretty harsh place to live. But since this is hacker news, here are some links:
- Viral footage shows bystanders doing nothing as Chinese woman is attacked in hotel https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2016/04/06...
- Preschools across China to be inspected after ‘series of child abuse cases’ http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2121495/presc...
- Air pollution suspected for sharp rise in China lung cancer rate http://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2106410/air-p...
- In China, the water you drink is as dangerous as the air you breathe https://www.theguardian.com/global-development-professionals...
- Man in China sentenced to five years' jail for running VPN https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/dec/22/man-in-china-s...
- Steam Community allegedly banned in China https://dotesports.com/general/news/steam-banned-china-19631
- The disappeared: Accounts from inside China's secret prisons http://www.cnn.com/2017/11/23/asia/china-lawyers-disappeared...
I would say from who I meet at expat bars/events in China, 80% of them are English teachers. They're there because there's no other skillsets for them to utilize in their home country, or they're just seeking new experiences before going back home. the rest 20% are there because their companies sent them there (but they'll go back sooner or later)
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#15Hearing all the negative stuff about China recently, like the online censorship, dictatorship, stories about people not caring about human life, like hearing it's common that if you accidentally drive over people, many will backup to finish the job so they wont' have to pay the insurance for rest of the life and seeings stories like babies on the streets and nobody caring, why would anyone want to work in China? Are…
I can recommend a YouTube channel from a couple Westerners who have lived in China for years and share their experiences about it, https://www.youtube.com/advchina -- the slightly older of whom is http://youtube.com/serpentza who lives in Shenzhen. They tackle a lot of the issues you bring up. China is very protective of their immigration, and unlike the US, it's impossible to get the equivalent of a Green Card or be…
I love these guys. Came here to link them. I suggest anyone watch these videos. They cover those topics as well as Visa issues and censorship.
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#16Hearing all the negative stuff about China recently, like the online censorship, dictatorship, stories about people not caring about human life, like hearing it's common that if you accidentally drive over people, many will backup to finish the job so they wont' have to pay the insurance for rest of the life and seeings stories like babies on the streets and nobody caring, why would anyone want to work in China? Are…
We probably hear mostly about the sensationally negative things the most because they drive clicks. The same could be said about all the negative news coming out of the US. Why would anyone want to move there? And yet they do, and many thrive. I'm sure China is thriving, despite its problems.
The problem is best illustrated with things like road deaths.
If you look at road deaths for China, it’s something like 20 per 100k people per year vs maybe 2-3 in the UK.
What that means is, statistically China is 8-10 times “worse” than the UK.
Does it mean you’re going to be seeing car crashes everywhere all the time? No.
Does it mean China’s road safety is much worse? Yes.
Things are much worse in China in a variety of meaningful respects. Does that mean it’s impossible to live there? Not at all.
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#17Looked into the taxes: for regular employees there are 7 brackets. Anything over 80,000RMB (12320 US Dollar) is taxed at 45%. Though it looks like if your income is derived by a company outside China, and you live there for >=1 and [1] https://www.ecovis.com/focus-china/individual-income-tax-iit...
Important to note that those figures are for monthly income, not yearly.
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#18What they don't tell you is that two of those ten years will be spent in a secret gulag for writing a wechat private message to your friend about how you dont like the great firewall of china. Thanks, but I'll pass.
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#19They might be able to attract high end talent from low end countries.
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#20Hearing all the negative stuff about China recently, like the online censorship, dictatorship, stories about people not caring about human life, like hearing it's common that if you accidentally drive over people, many will backup to finish the job so they wont' have to pay the insurance for rest of the life and seeings stories like babies on the streets and nobody caring, why would anyone want to work in China? Are…
Adding to the other comments if you thought the whole rhino horn medicine idea was bad wait till you hear about inflicting pain to animals to make the meat more delicious.